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Is a 680 a crazy choice?
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Soldato
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Can get a 670 right now for *NO PRICE HINTING*..The performance difference is very small and you can just clock the 670 to 680 speeds. 
Oooor
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-008-VX&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/2
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-008-VX&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673
I'm not shocked in the slightest when an enthusiast gets a hold of a severely underclocked 7950.
And it's not just BF3 either:
Tells it's own story, considering the 670 boosted up to 100MHz higher, could be the 7950's higher bandwidth and vram caching doing it's job.
No brainer that you can get a 7950+SSD for the same money as a 670.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/2
To be fair, I am an Nvidia fan but with current pricing, I would be looking for a 7970/50. Some great deals on here.
Edit: Now for 3D Vision, I would be looking at the 670 WF. I run 3D vision 2 and love it.
Edit: Now for 3D Vision, I would be looking at the 670 WF. I run 3D vision 2 and love it.
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The OP wants 3D vision.
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Go for it as the 680 is still a beast, whilst the 670 is fast and can clock, so can the 680 clock. Get the best you can afford........!
I don't get it, that's the first time I have seen a chart that claims a 7950 is better in BF3 than a 670.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=598
this shows a massively different story.
Its always driver/overclock/boost subjective IMO, at least the above comparison is actually showing the boost clocks, many don't.
That 7950 is probably hitting 7970 speeds or more with that OC, so it being level/slightly ahead of the 670 sounds about right.
Overclocks are far from guaranteed, especially a 7950 hitting 1200mhz and a 670 hitting 1300mhz, out of the box, stock clocks the 670 is probably the faster card of the two.
With the HD 7950 perhaps the near 50% overclock from the stock core speed used by AnandTech helps.
The drivers used would be ancient, newest drivers give >12% performance increase in BF3 over stock.
And as this guy says; the 7950 would have been at stock clocks whereas the 670 would already be "boosting".
If your not an enthusiast and don't like/want to overclock and wants to pay ~£110 for Nvidia 3D/or/and Tridef for £32, then go for a 670.
If you are an enthusiast overclocker and love a fiddle, wanting to pay just £16(on offer if you have AMD at the moment) for Tridef 3D(if it doesn't already come bundled free with certain 3D monitors), then get a 7950.
Remember all the reviews out there are stock(and underclocked) 7950's v's 670 boost clocks, yes AMD put out the clocks in the first place, but we are all very aware of what kind of overclock is available on the 7950's.
670+Nvidia 3D starting from a grand total of £408.
670+Tridef starting from £330.
7950+Tridef 3D starting from a grand total of £244, or £228 if you don't have to buy Tridef.
£180 cheaper going for a 7950 is not far off 7950 CrossFire.
I really hate being picky but I'm going to be anyway.
In what way does that chart claim that a 7950 is better than a 670.
Out of the 3 metrics (Min/Max/AVG) the 670 wins 2 out of 3, and the margins are so small that personally I would say that in that chart the cards are neck and neck and certainly not that one card is better than the other.
I really hate being picky but I'm going to be anyway.
In what way does that chart claim that a 7950 is better than a 670.
Out of the 3 metrics (Min/Max/AVG) the 670 wins 2 out of 3, and the margins are so small that personally I would say that in that chart the cards are neck and neck and certainly not that one card is better than the other.
The guy who said that it was better for BF3 may have chosen his words better but he isn't entirely wrong. The point is that for a much cheaper price you can get a card that is for all intents and purposes slightly faster overall.
The GTX 670 non-reference versions are £90 more expensive than non-reference 7950s. Even the stock GTX 670s are £50 more expensive and the 7950 is marginally faster at overclocked settings. I don't go with the idea that most people don't overclock, the HD 7xx0 series cards can be overclocked so easily. Just move two sliders in the CP, it is no different than adding extra AA/AF.
Right now the HD 7950 and 7870/7850 are the best price/perf card available. I know that even ardent Nvidia fans think the HD 7950 has unbeatable price/performance. The HD 7870 GHz can be purchased for less than £180, they are slightly faster than the performance crowned, premium priced GTX 580 from only 9 months ago.
I know AMD priced them high when released but thankfully Nvidia got their act together and got their Kepler cards released. If only to start a price war that benefits us all. Right now we have cards matching the performance of last gens top card for half the price it was still on sale for 9 months ago.
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OK lets just clarify things a bit here, firstly I was being facetious (really picky). But the fact remains that the chart in question only shows 3 sets of numbers two of which are higher on the 670, or are you going to include the speed in MHz that the cards can reach in which case there are 5 numbers (Min/Max/AVG/MHz/GHz) and oh wait the 670 still wins 3 out of 5.
Even if you look at all four of the charts that Spoffle posted up (original credit to tommybhoy) the two cards come out tied with 6 wins apiece. None of those charts mentions a price so hyperst original post is just wrong when he says
Now of course when you take price into account then most of us would agree that at the moment the 7950 is a cracking card at a brilliant price and defiantly a better deal than the 670.
Even if you look at all four of the charts that Spoffle posted up (original credit to tommybhoy) the two cards come out tied with 6 wins apiece. None of those charts mentions a price so hyperst original post is just wrong when he says
Now of course when you take price into account then most of us would agree that at the moment the 7950 is a cracking card at a brilliant price and defiantly a better deal than the 670.
Yes the 7950 and the 670 are very close when both overclocked to near their max, but the 7950 is clearer the better value buy at the moment.
The problem is that most people look up reviews with the 7950 at stock clocks and old drivers, but newer drivers have given large increases for skyrim and BF3 among others.
The problem is that most people look up reviews with the 7950 at stock clocks and old drivers, but newer drivers have given large increases for skyrim and BF3 among others.
Agreed but if the OP wants 3D vision (I say go for 3D Vision 2) then the 670 is the wisest choice. I love it and am glad I paid OTT prices for it.