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Is a 680 a crazy choice?

Yeah, sorry should have been more specific. it was just a general statement, not a suggestion to the OP :)

Nothing wrong with AMD's 3D and as Tommy pointed out, it will work out loads cheaper. I personally feel Nvidia 3D works very well especially the 3D vision 2 with a lightboost monitor.

I just wish Nvidia would see sense and start to chop prices so I can start recommending them again :(
 
Yea I reall liked the 3D effect when I ran 3Dplay on my 570, The witcher 2 looked amazing.

Shame I was stuck on 24FPS because of HDMI limitations, Im sure it is amazing at 60/120HZ.
 
OK lets just clarify things a bit here, firstly I was being facetious (really picky). But the fact remains that the chart in question only shows 3 sets of numbers two of which are higher on the 670, or are you going to include the speed in MHz that the cards can reach in which case there are 5 numbers (Min/Max/AVG/MHz/GHz) and oh wait the 670 still wins 3 out of 5.
Even if you look at all four of the charts that Spoffle posted up (original credit to tommybhoy) the two cards come out tied with 6 wins apiece. None of those charts mentions a price so hyperst original post is just wrong when he says.

Now of course when you take price into account then most of us would agree that at the moment the 7950 is a cracking card at a brilliant price and defiantly a better deal than the 670.

I already stated in my post that Hyperst was wrong in what he said. I qualified that I felt he wasn't entirely wrong when we went on the price/performance comparison.

This was all I meant to get across, nothing sinister and you said yourself nitpicking over 1% average FPS is silly.
 
The point I was trying to make was that AMD have lagged behind in BF3 rather badly in all but this one review, that is what I find strange, why would all other reviews make AMD cards look so bad in comparison to this one?
 
The HardOCP review uses the most recent drivers, which have brought BF3 performance, and they've overclocked the cards by nearly 50%, since they're realistically very underclocked.

All the other reviews don't use that combination.
 
The point I was trying to make was that AMD have lagged behind in BF3 rather badly in all but this one review, that is what I find strange, why would all other reviews make AMD cards look so bad in comparison to this one?

Because all the other reviews were done with the drivers at the time. Since 12.7 there have been some decent performance increases.
 
Because all the other reviews were done with the drivers at the time. Since 12.7 there have been some decent performance increases.

Well I have never seen drivers produce 30fps more in an update, I suppose it's also the overclocking to some extent, why can't reviews do some real comparisons, like a normal overclock as I'm quite sure most 7950's are not going to be clocking like the one above?
 
Of course it'll be the overclocking. It's a 50% core speed increase.

Drivers producing such an increase isn't unlikely, it could be down to them not being optimised properly in the first place, which isn't unreasonable to expect considering the change in architecture with AMD's 7 series.

It seems on average, 7950s get to 1100 Mhz on the core. As for real comparisons, there aren't many sites that do reviews like Hard OCP, they seem to be among the best. Most sites will simply do bench marks on release drivers and never update.
 
Well I have never seen drivers produce 30fps more in an update, I suppose it's also the overclocking to some extent, why can't reviews do some real comparisons, like a normal overclock as I'm quite sure most 7950's are not going to be clocking like the one above?

Its probably the most real comparison weve had yet in a review. All cards with newest drivers, all overclocked to near the limits just like a lot of PC enthusiasts run.

Most 7950s will reach 1200 core with a good cooler (non reference) and added voltage.
 
HardOCP really is one of the least biased websites out there, and even when Kyle Bennet is feeling a bit biased, he doesn't let it damage the overall bench mark results, he'll let it show in a rant at the end of the review in his conclusions paragraphs.

They're not shy to call AMD or nVidia out over there, which is great to see. Didn't they get but on a black list by nVidia last year for calling them out over something?
 
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