Is AMD's new Steamroller PC processor architecture a dud?

[Boomstick777]

Nothing to see here, move along. No plans for new AMD FX chips

Analysis Latest roadmap shows AMD has no plans to launch revised performance processors

I'm very, very worried about AMD's upcoming Steamroller CPU architecture. For some time, it's seemed like the last great hope for some real competition in the PC processor market. Now it looks like it might be dud.

http://www.techradar.com/news/compu...ller-pc-processor-architecture-a-dud--1205237

Don't shoot the messenger, I really hope it isn't a dud...

 

[Boomstick777]

It's not trolling, I just gave the link to the article ffs. That's exactly why I wrote don't shoot the messenger, I know someone would get personal.. Yeah we all like AMD but try and take your love for them out of the picture and just read it. The good thing is, maybe AMD will respond to this article and reveal if they do have any future higher end desktop CPU plans. Speculation from forum members is ok, but I would like legit info from AMD themselves if they have any future plans. Hopefully they will respond.

 

[Boomstick777]

I don't now why some here feel the need to be so defensive. DM and AlxAndy are the worse offenders.

I for one hope AMD do have a new arch coming in 2014, I wanted a nice 8 core SR setup, just Pile-driver is a disappointment for me. You guys think it's fantastic.. Ok.

The posts here saying AMD never need to release another CPU, everything's already more than powerful enough.. Mantle etc..

Those guys will be the first in line to buy new AMD chips ! Shouting from the rooftops, about how good they are if they matched Intel Be interesting to see how the comments will change if AMD do announce new stuff in 2014, all of sudden that will be the best thing ever, AMD ftw.

 

[Boomstick777]

Defensive? not really. Do you agree with the article then?

I think that it's disappointing that AMD aren't planning to bring anything new with SR to the desktop in 2014 except APU's. I wanted to move to an 8 core SR setup, fancied a change and I like to support AMD, (The underdog). So for me it was a bit of anti climax, if articles like this put pressure on AMD to respond than I think the article could be good in that sense.

 

[Boomstick777]

If you're happy with current CPU's that's ok, but I want more progress from AMD. The GPU department is spot on, APU's are great. It's just that high end CPU line that is being overlooked, I'm sure I'm not the only one who like AMD to be competitive in that area again. Very disappointed if it's only more Piledriver chips in 2014, not much more to say tbh. Be interesting to see if AMD do announce anything new, how many of these people who are currently saying AMD don't need anything new, would rush out and buy new chips !

 

[Boomstick777]

The real dark horse is the Intel Pentium G3420, at less than £50 it's performance and low power use is awesome. Great for gaming and general use.

 

[Boomstick777]

As we've all mentioned though broomstick, its a small market to concentrate a lot of money into, Amd don't have the money, or the fabs, they don't have the resources or the engineers to compete with Intel at that level anymore. The best Amd can do is use what they have and aim for the low to middle and make lots of money, Remember the days when they were consistantly in the red, something had to give to keep the afloat through the hard times.
With the onlook of cpu-gpu compute Amd can try to push the boundaries out a little.

Doesn't make it any less disappointing Deardree..

AMD only have little money now because they keep launching poor products that they can't charge a premium for. It is what it is, the GPU department is awesome, APU's are great as well. It's just a shame that the other markets are being ignored. If AMD could launch a competitive product their than there would be money to be made, but yeah the reasons they have given it up don't make it any less disappointing..

 

[Boomstick777]

The FX6300 does not "easily" reach 5GHz.

And power draw on a stock FX6300 let alone one at 5GHz is mental in comparison to the i3, and as a result will require a larger PSU, an after-market cooler and most probably a more expensive motherboard, meaning that if you take all of that into consideration it really doesn't seem like such a great option.

And where can you go from a FX6300? to an FX8350 or some other insanely overpriced FX8350 variant which will most likely need an even more expensive motherboard. From the i3 you can go to an i5 for example. An i5K. Even an i7K or some kind of Xeon, most likely including the upcoming Broadwell chips, and any of those CPU's will work in the same motherboard without causing avoidable calls to the fire brigade.

Don't get me wrong, AMD make some cracking stuff. Their APU's are fantastic, the GPU's are fantastic, many of the mobile and server CPU solutions are fantastic, Mantle looks like it will also be fantastic, but I really don't think that they have cracked it (or even come close to cracking it) with the new FX series CPU's. There was a time when AMD's performance CPU's were great, as recently as the Phenom II in-fact, of which I have owned several. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they ditch the high performance CPU's and focus more on GPU's as well as APU's and other similar space/energy saving solutions which could completely change the laptop/mobile landscape.

They should play to their strengths. Making high performance desktop CPU's is not one of their strengths at the moment. I'm not saying that they should never attempt it again, nonono, but perhaps now isn't the time for another stab at it.

Capisce?

Great post, and exactly the point I was making, I think you just wrote it better

The performance to power use of Intel is just so far ahead that it's a big advantage, like you said you could buy in at an entry level (Pentium / i3) and have great gaming performance, and if needed step up to a i5, Xeon or i7, with the whole range being superior lol.

I do hope AMD get competitive again in the desktop space, APU's / GPU's are great but I would love AMD to offer a true high end CPU. Each to their own though you know, I'm glad people still are buying AMD chips, still supporting them. I'm doing my bit by buying AMD GPU's

 

[Boomstick777]

I have a Xeon E3 1220 and a GTX660 and under the most intensive games,it pulls under 200W at the wall,and that is with multiple drives.

Those Xeon's are really nice for low power gaming setup, we have a 1230 v2 in our HTPC with a 7850 2GB, fairly low power, the Xeon has stock cooler and doesn't get hot. Rips through most games on the higher settings @ 1080P.