Is anybody up for a challenge?

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We sometimes have conspiracy theory type threads in GD. Especially over 9/11. More recently about where America is headed.

I am looking for somebody who 100% still thinks there is nothing fishy about the official 9/11 story. My challenge is for you to watch the following documentaries and come back and still say you believe the official story of what happened on that day.

I know there are a lot of documentaries but I found them interesting. Also before I watched these I would have called somebody a tin hatter if they said the official 9/11 story is a lie.

After watching them you may not come to a conclusion of what really happened but you will know we have been lied to about what happened and who knew what. If I remember right all these documentaries can be found on You tube and Google video.

1 9/11 the great illusion
2 Architects for truth
3 9/11 effect
5 9/11 and the BBC
5 9/11 mysteries
6 9/11 In Plane Site
7 9/11 the myth and the reality
8 Grave Implications
9 Kill The Messenger
10 Missing Links
11 September clues
12 9/11 amateurs
13 9/11 chronicles
14 9/11 false flag
15 Zero
16 9/11 commission report
17 Naomi wolf the end of America. This is not about 9/11. It is about where the author sees America heading to.

I am not saying I believe everything in these documentaries. They do pose some very interesting questions though.
 
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If you like these type of documentaries I also recommend. I would not say I am obsessed I just find these documentaries very interesting. I have watched these over the last 16 months or so.

7/7 and London

1 ripple effects
2 mind the gap
3 7/7 the big picture
4 Seeds of deconstruction
5 9-11 7-7 connection
6 Blair’s big secret

US constitution

1 Shadow government
2 War on our civil liberties
3 Washington
4 Reflections and warnings
5 Collapse of the middle class
6 The Harvard yard
7 Truth rising
8 The tea party deception

Financial

1 Financial Zeitgeist
2 Capitalism a love story
3 College conspiracy
4 Confessions of an economic hitman
5 Inside job
6 Money as debt
7 One Nation Under Debt In Stress
8 The dollar bubble
9 Money Master
10 The superclass
11 Understanding the Financial Crisis

Alex Jones

1 End game
2 Road to tyranny
3 Skull and Bones
4 America freedom to fascism
5 Core of corruption
6 Election deception
7 Fabled enemies
8 Fall of the republic
9 Invisible empire
10 Loose change
11 Masters of terror
12 Police state 4
13 Shadows in motion
14 Terrorstorm
15 The New American Century
16 The Obama deception
17 Wake up call
18 H.A.A.R.P
19 Barack Obama’s deadly secrets

CIA

1 CIA secrets
2 CIA drug ops
3 Secret CIA wars
4 In lies we trust
5 CIA Ray McGovern
6 Child Prostitution & Satanic Sex Abuse & the CIA
7 CIA child trafficking
8 CIA conspiracy uncovered


1 BBC the power of nightmares
2 End of America movie
3 Lies and manipulation
4 Beginning of America
5 Media manipulation

Psychology

1 The war you don't see
2 Mind control America’s secret war
3 Trance-formation of America
4 Architects of control
5 Psychological Terror
6 MKULTRA
7 Presidential Election
8 Psywar
9 Undetectable Mind Control
10 Media Lies and manipulation
11 Mind control methods
12 Conspiracy of silence
13 Terror storm
 
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Biohazard said:
GOOD GOD YES GIVE ME MOAR

Obsessed a bit?
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No just frightened about where our world is heading. Gerald Celente says we are about to enter a depression that will be far worse than the one in the 1920's. He also says we are heading towards WW3. That scares the hell out of me. Never mind go back to sleep sheeple and remember to always believe what your government and mainstream news tells you to believe.
 
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Ok, let's assume for a second that someone has a) the time and b) the interest (we'll ignore that they've clearly not demonstrated such in the past 10 years to find the documentaries on their own) then what? What is achieved by someone watching all the documentaries and acknowledging that in a chaotic event such as the attacks on the WTC there may be inconsistencies in some of what has been reported?

It's also worth remembering that even if some details are wrong (I'm not expressing an opinion on this point) that doesn't disprove or prove any particular point of view - it merely shows that some of it isn't 100% accurate.
 
If somebody still believes in the official 911 story at this point in time, it is far too late to be worried about them now. Pride and ego stands in the way of too many people so they will never admit they were wrong, it is easier and more convenient to believe darker skinned folk with beards and turbans are out to get everyone. Plus it justifies the hatred for a minority of people so they don't require any proof.

Prepare to be ridiculed and mocked anyway, but yeah I'll try watch some of those.
 
You do know that it doesn't change anything, believe them or not you still live you life the same way anyone else does.

If such things are true then a hand full of people beveling them obviously doesn't effect or change what governments do or carry out, if you did then you would all disappear off the face of the earth. They (the people at the top) laugh at you, normal ordinary people laugh at you, it really doesn't change anything about who you are or what you do. You don't have increased freedom over anyone else, you don't see outside the box more so than the next man. You live your life like any other 'sheep', you're bound to the rules that are set out. This is not the Matrix, you can't break out of the system and be unaffected by what is around you, neither do you change what is around you.

You're wasting your time believing in such things, worrying about where our world is heading. This world has been through thousands of changes in the past, civilizations being wiped out by others, leaders killing their own population just to stay in power, leaders being killed for the greater good without the knowledge of but a select few that it would happen. Nothing will change, you can't change anything, your 'knowledge' about events past and present can not effect anything that has and will happen, you won't sway public opinion into believing ludicrous things when people are happy with how they are.
 
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No just frightened about where our world is heading. Never mind go back to sleep sheeple and remember to always believe what your government and mainstream news tells you to believe.
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How is believing any old rubbish posted on the internet any better? Why is it that people that do not agree with your position are just sheeple whilst you are not? It isn't like the 9/11 CT nuts can even agree on a story yet we are meant to believe they are all true? Even when they contradict each other...
 
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No just frightened about where our world is heading. Never mind go back to sleep sheeple and remember to always believe what your government and mainstream news tells you to believe.
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Thankfully I have plenty of power to do something about it, and can make a giant change upon the rolling machine of political rubbish that they may or may not be correctly feeding us...

I also have much better things to be doing than watching goodness knows however many hours of conspiracy theory....

Basically +1 to Azza!

kd
 
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I fear it may be misplaced in this particular forum of conversation. Inside most of us here, especially the seasoned members, there are small alarm bells that ring inside your head when you're about to post something that may be construed as ridiculous or will simply be ridiculed. Is it right to conform to what the official government statements tell us? Maybe, maybe not. Fight the machine and all that.

I wish you the best of luck, however expect a **** storm coming your way in the next few hours, or even days (if you're one of the lucky ones!). Perhaps in the future, expressing such opinions is best left to dedicated theatres of discussion on the internet, and those long dull afternoons with too many hash brownies. You may find any audience in these situations slightly more receptive to your ideals.
 
Morgoth said:
Yeah, sure. You're the enlightened one...
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I never said I am the enlightened one but surely I am more enlightened on 9/11 than the people who only look at the official story evidence. To come to any sort of conclusion should you not look at all the evidence and not just the evidence the Government and mainstream news gave us?
 
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How is believing any old rubbish posted on the internet any better? Why is it that people that do not agree with your position are just sheeple whilst you are not? It isn't like the 9/11 CT nuts can even agree on a story yet we are meant to believe they are all true? Even when they contradict each other...
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I don't think anyone believes in all the CTs regarding 911? Some absolutely absurd ones may have been pushed out just to help discredit all the others. It is all lies mixed with half truths and I don't think anyone has ever claimed to know the 100% full details? What is obvious is that there are so many holes in the official story and IF, and it is a very big IF, it is possible that the government could carry out something like that on its own people, what else are they capable off? These people have already been caught lying numerous times so why would anyone want to defend or make excuses for them? Bush accidently admitted he was sat watching the FIRST plane hit the tower and you had people on here saying 'well he could have easily been confused in all the events that day' :confused: You had the janitor who worked in the tower for over 10 years saying there was an explosion in the basement before any planes hit, and numerous explosions thereafter, and people say he was confused, I mean how is that logical?
 
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