Is being a chav genetic or social?

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 18:30

Popping to the local shops for essentials around my way is always interesting. I have to interact with the locals and quite honestly I would describe most of them as scumbags, jobless, stupid, junkies, pissheads. Just general *** if you're going to swear, fully star it out in future, not just some of the letters ***

Are people this way from their genes, or does your environment make you who you are?

Apologies.

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 18:35

Yes, but there must come a point in peoples lives where they stop and think.... I'm a tool, this needs sorting!

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 18:41

Maccapacca said:
If everyone is the same you just don’t realise your one of them.

That could be true if living 100 years ago! But these days you can see the bigger picture

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 18:50

Raelthorne said:
It's the environment and upbringing. As far as I remember there were two documentaries about it recently, focused on a young lad called Eggsy I think? Anyway, he turned out alright in the end

I saw that!!! He saved the world! Chavs can turn around

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 19:21

FloppyPoppy said:
Nurture not nature.

There is so much bad nurture!

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 20:18

Hedge said:
Interact with them how?

Are they aggressive to you or do they just not match your class?

I would say yes! They come over an chat their nonsense! What can I do? At the best of times I dont want to be near these rotters

Screenbeat · 9 May 2020 at 20:23

~>Dg<~ said:
society. back in the day you did something wrong you got a clip round the ear or a good hiding you cant discipline people anymore. its like fairy land. everything is against someones rights the worlds covered in cotton wool. so with no fear of reprisal people wonder why more act like ***** .

Yes!! Was still a little git though

Screenbeat · 11 May 2020 at 22:53

Wow! I never expected to get so many responses to this thread!!

And by the way I never meant to cause offence when I said jobless! There is jobless and then there is career jobless!

Screenbeat · 12 May 2020 at 08:16

stockhausen said:
Perhaps if you spent less time "interacting" with your buddies this wouldn't be a problem

They dont give me much choice, they are usually so off their nut they come over and chat to me like I'm their best friend, when they get politely told to go away they get a bit ragey

Screenbeat · 12 May 2020 at 08:19

Diddums said:
Dunning Kruger effect.

Haha, love it!!! I know so many people like this, sadly I have to work with them every day!!

Screenbeat · 12 May 2020 at 08:33

~>Dg<~ said:
society. back in the day you did something wrong you got a clip round the ear or a good hiding you cant discipline people anymore. its like fairy land. everything is against someones rights the worlds covered in cotton wool. so with no fear of reprisal people wonder why more act like ***** .

I was given plenty of smacks! A beating doesn't really work! If I did something that I knew was wrong I'd weigh up weather it was worth the beating

Screenbeat · 12 May 2020 at 08:48

norm said:
I think like most people you adopt a persona depending on your underlying values and emotions.

With chavs, I think their dissatisfaction with their lives, environment, irregular shaped sofas, plays a large role in their behaviour. They're angry. Angry about the fact the cant call anything of worth their own, angry they have to rely on the state for handouts, angry about the fact they had so many kids and it didn't really improve their lives for the better.

Now whilst this anger is masked on the surface, I'm sure it sits there deep down and all this loud brash nature with their desire to show off with tattoos, possessions, loud music it's all masquerading how they feel inside with their inadequacies.

At least that's my interpretation of it.

Agree

Screenbeat · 12 May 2020 at 09:02

adolf hamster said:
reckon it's mostly social.

if your formative years are spent in an environment devoid of role models or any impetus to succeed then it should be no surprise you end up following that same track.

you see the same thing on the other end of the scale, with second/third generation millionaires squandering their fortunes as they become more distanced from the role models that built it in the first place.

Agree

Screenbeat · 12 May 2020 at 11:10

Dis86 said:
How do you explain wallet Barry's? I've just moved from an area where average income is quite high, particularly for the north east. Most houses comfortably had over £100k of cars sat on their driveway for example (always white range rovers, mercs and audis). However the people were just out and out chavs. Every woman looked like a Geordie Shore reject and the blokes were all fat towie extras. A lot of them smashed every weekend, some weekdays too, loud, complete lack of consideration for anyone else, etc.

Wallet Barrys, thats a new one for me haha

Screenbeat · 13 May 2020 at 19:17

Ninco! said:
My uncle, lost his wife and brought up his daughter, absolutely devoted. Lives in one of the largest cities in the UK.

Niece got to age where she rebelled and fell in with the wrong crowd. Now at a young age has 2 kids, is a drug addict, living with a low rent gangster boyfriend and no money. Soul destroying.

Uncle is a proud man and cut all ties; disowned. Agree with @arknor

Thanks for your post Ninco!

Screenbeat · 13 May 2020 at 19:25

Dis86 said:
Fetal alcohol syndrome. Look it up.

There it is!!!!