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Is Conroe the Core 2 Duo?

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I know this is a stupid question but Im a bit behindthe times at the moment. Is the Core 2 Duo also called Conroe? And is the Socket it uses the LGA775 one?

Im sure Im just being dopey but Ive been waiting for conroe rather than getting an X2 even though Ive been on AMD for a long time and I dont want to get the wrong thing. Is it really that much better than the X2's?
 
Core 2 Duo comes in two flavours at the moment, Conroe and Allendale. Allendale is essentially a cache crippled Conroe running at lower speeds. Both use LGA775.

And yes they are that much better than X2s, especially if you start overclocking them.

If you're building a new system from scratch I would struggle to justify going with an X2 at the moment.

Jokester
 
Huugs said:
I know this is a stupid question but Im a bit behindthe times at the moment. Is the Core 2 Duo also called Conroe? And is the Socket it uses the LGA775 one?

Im sure Im just being dopey but Ive been waiting for conroe rather than getting an X2 even though Ive been on AMD for a long time and I dont want to get the wrong thing. Is it really that much better than the X2's?
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Yes Conroe is/was the codename for the Core 2 Duo. The two are names for the same chip. And yes, it uses a LGA775 socket, BUT BUT BUT note it uses different voltages so you need a motherboard that can cope with the new voltages, which essentially means a recent mobo with a modern bios.

Is it really better than the X2s? Well that depends what you do. Its a lot lower power, which translates to lower output heat, less cooling and therefore less noise in cooling the thing. Does it perform calculations better than a AMD X2? Well on the whole yes (esp. compared an equivalent priced conroe chip to a X2 chip), however the question on everyones lips is do we really need all these CPU horsepower? If you are encoding video/mp3 then yes its useful imo. Also I believe (hope) it will help those framerates in games. Worth upgrading from a X2? Probably not unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket!
 
Jokester said:
If you're building a new system from scratch I would struggle to justify going with an X2 at the moment.

Jokester
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Could be argued the AMD platform is more mature. How many posts have there been lately about x motherboard not working with y memory and so on with regards to the Conroe boards.
 
well AMD 939 systems are very mature now, there very compatible, very reliable and there is huge range of motherboards at lower prices
 
My conroe flattens the dual core opty 170 @ 2.8ghz (fx 62 speeds) it replaced.

There really is no contest.

Conroe Is in a world of its own..

Also as long as you do the research and buy the correct components comaptibilty will just not be an issue.
 
i havnt had intel since my p3 500 ,amd has ben where its at now im 110 percent conroe converted .....awesome... :D
 
Jokester said:
Core 2 Duo comes in two flavours at the moment, Conroe and Allendale. Allendale is essentially a cache crippled Conroe running at lower speeds. Both use LGA775.

And yes they are that much better than X2s, especially if you start overclocking them.

If you're building a new system from scratch I would struggle to justify going with an X2 at the moment.

Jokester
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Jokester - I am pretty sure you are right however - looking at the description on the OCUK CPU pages for the E6xxx range of chips - it looks like the whole range is known as Conroe

I do completely agree that the one / two line description also changes half way to differentiate - but the general design of these new cpu's could be classified as Conroe as well as Core 2 Duo

Would you agree or not?
 
FrankJH said:
Jokester - I am pretty sure you are right however - looking at the description on the OCUK CPU pages for the E6xxx range of chips - it looks like the whole range is known as Conroe

I do completely agree that the one / two line description also changes half way to differentiate - but the general design of these new cpu's could be classified as Conroe as well as Core 2 Duo

Would you agree or not?
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notice they used the same description more or less for all of em. The 2mb is Allendale the 4mb is conroe, the 'family' is Core 2 Duo.
 
It seems some people are getting carried away once again, remember to take some of these comments with a pinch of salt, after all is shaving a few seconds of a super-pi score something to make such fuss about?

I'm glad INTEL have released a great CPU once again, but reading some of the comments made by Conroe owners makes this CPU out to be some technology from an advanced alien civilization???? :p
 
I got a Duo 2 chip, because there is no pins to flippin bend if you have an attack of some sort and drop it. It also whips AMD`s arse slightly :D Oh to and to top it off, you get the right gear and to be able to clock it WELL beyond any fat mans waist line is good value to boot !
 
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I got one basically to overclock it at a later date.

Those mobos will comedown in price soon when boards with SLi come out later on this year.

To get me started I bought an ASROCK -VSTA for 56€ cheap as chips but after seeing the performance of this board @ stock there is little difference between it and the gigabyte boards which are 3 times more expensive. The only difference is the overclockability but for a temp mobo to tide me over for 3-4 months you can't beat the ASROCK mobo.

bang for buck performance though the AMD cpus are still close to conroes as stock.
 
Allendale is a codename for stripped down versions of the Conroe processors with only 2MB of L2 cache. The E6300 (1.86GHz) and E6400 (2.13GHz), both with a 1066MT/s FSB, were released on July 27, 2006. At launch time, Intel's prices for the Core 2 Duo E6300 and E6400 processors were $183 USD and $224 USD each in quantities of 1000
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taken from same link, we both may be right in that 'conroe' was the original codename but the official release codenames are different. If Conroe was the actual family name i don't think they'd leave the 4mb versions named 'conroe', its more or less like 'Northwood' and 'Prescott' just codenames for different cores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conroe
 
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Gashman said:
well AMD 939 systems are very mature now, there very compatible, very reliable and there is huge range of motherboards at lower prices
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939 systems are way out of the question now, buying a dead platform = bad if your starting from scratch. Thats like saying an old lady is very mature now so she has a lot of experience but I'd personally still go for the young, sexy model! :p (Wow, what a great way to explain! :D)

AMD had there chance with AM2 recently but tbh, I think they blew it because releasing a new socket which offers hardly any performance gain is a bad choice. They would have been better off waiting imo and releasing something which is worth buying.

And tbh about the compatability problem, its not exactly hard to read about and find that the HZ ram doesnt work with the DS3. I thought it was only the HZ ram acctually which was having problems with compatibility?
 
Got 2 HZ sets, one set works fine the other set won't post, even single sticks, works fine in other boards though. The ZX also dosen't work for me.These are tested with a DS3 and DS4
 
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taken from same link, we both may be right in that 'conroe' was the original codename but the official release codenames are different. If Conroe was the actual family name i don't think they'd leave the 4mb versions named 'conroe', its more or less like 'Northwood' and 'Prescott' just codenames for different cores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conroe
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maybe initially it was decided that the family was ment to be "codenamed" conroe, before they decided to put allendale's into the equation,
for now though i think Jokester is correct, that there are Conroe's and Allendale's to distinguish the 2 differnt processor types. Which is pretty much what i said in the other thread.

Huugs are you planning to purchase from new?
 
Cheers guys.
Yea I was thinking of building from scratch again. At the moment Im on a good old Althon XP 2400+ which is definately showing its age now. I also want to make a system to use as a sort of media server for my home network. I was thinking if I got a new rig my current one could be the server as it wont need a lot of horsepower.

If I were to get a Conroe rig (E6600) it looks like I would be spending a fair whack as I would need new memory, graphics card and mobo all together. I have an AGP 6800GT so are there any Conroe mobos with APG on them or would that just be stupid? Im guessing not which would mean Im looking at roughly 600 quid. That sound about right?
 
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If I were to get a Conroe rig (E6600) it looks like I would be spending a fair whack as I would need new memory, graphics card and mobo all together. I have an AGP 6800GT so are there any Conroe mobos with APG on them or would that just be stupid? Im guessing not which would mean Im looking at roughly 600 quid. That sound about right?
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I don't think there is a compatible board that has AGP. At least officially. I'm sure I've read of someone who was using a Conroe on an older i865 chipset board IIRC, but I don't think it would be ideal. I had a 6800GT and decided to get a PCIe GT7600GT. Combined with the Core 2 Duo it seems much faster and smoother in the games I've tried than my old 6800GT with Athlon XP-M 2500. I got the basic BFG one from OCUK http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/7600_Series.html
 
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