Is DirectX 13 on the cards in 2021 or 2022?

[g67575]

Or, are we in for a much longer wait?

DX 11 released on October 22nd, 2009 for windows 7. Less than 6 years later (July 29, 2015), DX 12 was released.

DX 12 Ultimate was released in March this year, but seems to be mostly an extension of DX 12, rather than a major overhaul.

Perhaps more importantly, will developers 'need' a new version, or can they already get sufficient performance and image quality from DX 12?

Could it be eventually be overtaken by Vulkan, which has provided excellent performance in games like DOOM (2016) and Doom Eternal?

 

[Rroff]

Developers are barely using DX12 (and mostly badly) yet never mind anything newer :s

DX12U is basically MS's attempt at a next gen API so doubt it will be replaced any time soon but I have no inside track on that.

 

[g67575]

DX12U has been described as "an unprecedented alignment between PC and Xbox Series X". What if that's really all there is to it? Apart from enhancing features like ray tracing and adding support for variable rate shading.

Features like Variable Rate Shading and Sampler Feedback seem to be geared towards enhancing performance, very important when you are aiming for 4K resolution on a lower power console GPU, with ray tracing in some titles.

From here:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/announcing-directx-12-ultimate/

There's a comparison of the known features of DX12_2 here:

About half of the above features are shared by DX 12_1...

So, to me, it seems more like 'DirectX 12.5'

Link:
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/...s-directx-12-ultimate-its-next-generation-api

 

[Grim5]

DX13 will come with the next version of windows

but also what makes it less likely is that DX12 keeps getting updates - DX12 ultimate has a metric ton of features that base DX12 did not have, those features are normally held back for the next version but they updated 12 which makes anDX13 unlikely until a new windows

And I hope we don't get new Windows, I'm really happy with the current way Windows works and never look forward to a whole heap of app compatibility issues

 

[g67575]

Windows 10 has been called "the last version of Windows". Maybe we might need to pay for upgrades in the future (I think MS would only do this once they have upgraded almost all PCs to Windows 10).

I think they will just keep releasing new Win 10 builds... rather than require users to upgrade their OS.

I'm very curious about how Microsoft plans to monetize Windows 10... Maybe just lots of paid apps?

Windows 10 licenses that expire every few years

 

[JohnG7]

They said Win 10 is the last Windows, they will just keep updating it (basically constantly for Beta/Dev/Can right now)

I hope not.

 

[g67575]

I will feel like a bit of a t*** if I upgrade my GPU next year, then Microsoft bring out DX 13 the year after.

 

[Yaayuh!]

It’s really nothing to think about for quite some time.

 

[Kaapstad]

Game devs have hardly got to grips with DX12 and the last thing they will want is yet another API.

 

[Brazo]

I think a more appropriate thread title would be is DX12 on the cards in 2021/2022.

And the answer is highly unlikely!

 

[Grim5]

I will feel like a bit of a t*** if I upgrade my GPU next year, then Microsoft bring out DX 13 the year after.

it takes games years to make use of the new features, look how many new games still come out only supporting DX11.

DX12 was ahead of it's time, its only now going to get properly used when new game engine are developed for next gen consoles and PCs

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Windows 10 was claimed to be the last version of windows and that it would simply receive updates in the way of service packs to add new features. And I think a similar claim was made for DX12, that it would largely stay the same but would have addons to the core features such as the recent DXR addition. It's somewhat of a marketing thing anyhow, the history of windows is that it's the same built on old tech but with UI updates each generation, Once we've moved off the DOS wrapper that was Win 98 to the NT based OS it was pretty much just an evolution since then. Whether you give them leaps different names or make them patches or service packs really doesn't matter all that much.