Is it now time?

Jayos

Jayos

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I have been building PC’s for years, but haven’t done a major upgrade for years.
Though about moving to DDR4 but that meant mobo & cpu. Every time, resisting the urge and the 3770 i7 is still going strong.
Got by by adding ssd’s etc. But I think the time has come. However, rocket lake or wait for alder lake?
Will my indecisiveness kick in again?
Pcie 4 and a new m2 will give a big boost but maybe wait for pcie 5

I know, I know, there is never a right time and you can wait forever, so shall I take the plunge for a major upgrade to last me for years?

CPU, mobo, ddr4, m2 ssd on the list

What’s your thoughts?
What will I do with the current rig?
 
If your happy with the performance of your PC then wait until next year or longer. If things you do take longer than you need them to do or games stutter then upgrade if you want. At the moment I would wait until GPU prices calm down or you manage to snag a Nvidia FE card. In parts it depends on the software you use, some people only use software that isn't very demanding on the PC and runs smoothly on a lower performance PC.
 
dd5/PCIe 5.0 is coming next year but expect the ram to be priced high with low stock amounts and competing with data centres . Boards z690/X690 will also be costly due to PCIe 5.0 design just like 4.0 was . Took z490/B550 to get better and cheaper design pathways of 4.0 . Need good signal strength etc .

Ryzen 5*** is a little high at the moment, even with a falling dollar but brexit and stock levels doesnt help the price were it should be.

Intel 11th gen is almost out so might get pricing down slightly for ryzen
 
If you waited for DDR5 / PCIe 5 at the moment, I think you may fall fowl of early adoption type aspect. I'd say generally the first generation of a new tech tends to be a) a bit expensive, b) superceeded fairly quickly by revision that offers a marked improvement in terms of price/performance over the 1st generation ... making it worth the wait for the 2nd gen of that product.

So in your case, for the best long term out look, the best value of next gen may be a bit away yet ... making the current stuff more suitable.

You seem to be at a stage that you're needing the upgrade and not just wishing it ... so perhaps the upgrade now would be the better choice. Waiting and waiting is only going to make your need get larger.
 
10400f, cheapo board, 16Gb DDR4 for about £250 all in. Then worry about if you made the right choice later down the line, its still gonna be a massive upgrade from what you have, and if you want to change it when AM5 etc comes around you'll still easily get £150+ back for it.
 
Some great advice and food for thought.
I like the idea of missing the first generation ddr5/pcie5 and waiting for stabilisation both demand & price. By which time things will be clearer with alderlake or other options.
Ignoring the latest and greatest now and opting for cheaper options makes sense as I am sure I will see big improvements which will tide me over. I have gone this long with a 3770 :)

One thing I am struggling with is if pcie 4 paired with new ssd (Samsung 980) will be significant enough to justify the cost. Or wait……….
I guess it’s finding the right balance.
The shopping list building begins
 
So. Looking at rocket lake 11900k vs 11700k I am struggling to see much difference. Both have 8 cores, just a very slight difference in clock speed.
I read somewhere that intel spec recommends 1:1 multiplier on ddr for i9 but 2:1 on i7 but mobo can still run 1:1 on i7
Is i9 now reall just marketing guff for an extra £100+. ?
 
Jayos said:
Is i9 now reall just marketing guff for an extra £100+. ?
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The whole Rocket Lake launch is guff, never mind the i9 moniker on one of the SKU's. 50% more money for an 11700K vs 10700K for little to no improvement at all. Utter madness if you are buying one for 'games'.
 
Journey said:
The whole Rocket Lake launch is guff, never mind the i9 moniker on one of the SKU's. 50% more money for an 11700K vs 10700K for little to no improvement at all. Utter madness if you are buying one for 'games'.
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This, 11600k being £100 cheaper then 5600X currently for just gaming .
5700G hopefully comes out a good £50 cheaper then the 5800x and will become the norm
 
I think the 11700k vs 10700k can be justified for the additional pcie 4 as not just buying for gaming and will benefit from increased read/write rates. Well, that's the theory but I might be wrong
 
Jayos said:
Well, that's the theory but I might be wrong
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You are wrong, unless you are using it for huge amounts of data transfer between two or more drives that are matched for sequential writes. You have to be copying 100's GB's to make it even slightly worth while and not just once in a blue moon, and by the time MS DirectStorage becomes a thing in games the 10700K will be able to be swapped out for a bargain basement 11th Gen that no one wanted, or a newer platform.

Paying £100+ to save a few seconds... vs using that £100 to get a better faster system over all, might as well just get a 5800X based system if that is how you value things.
 
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