Is it possible to get a gaming rig with a monitor for £670?

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Hello :) ,

I have £670 to spend on a PC build with a monitor. I would like to play future games close to max. FSX, TF2 etc. Future games - BF3 maybe?

Now I do own a TV but it is not full HD, it has a resolution of 1366by768. I realise this is a crap resolution for gaming so I don't know what to do. Is it really that bad playing games on a non full HDTV with a PC??

- I would like a PC build which is future proof.

- Is it better to get a PC build and leave the monitor for now? or

- Is it better to spend £670 on a lower spec PC build and monitor?

Thanks for any input. ;)
 
Something along the lines of?

Product Name Qty Price Line Total
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6950 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE DIRT3 Game £181.99
(£151.66) £181.99
(£151.66)
BenQ G2222HDL 21.5" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £103.19
(£85.99) £103.19
(£85.99)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £83.99
(£69.99) £83.99
(£69.99)
Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 PCI-Express ATX Motherboard £79.99
(£66.66) £79.99
(£66.66)
Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £59.99
(£49.99) £59.99
(£49.99)
OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W Power Supply £39.98
(£33.32) £39.98
(£33.32)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
Corsair Value 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Low Voltage Dual-Channel Kit £29.98
(£24.98) £29.98
(£24.98)
DeepCool Ice Edge 400-FS Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1155/1156/775 and AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2/K8) £24.98
(£20.82) £24.98
(£20.82)
OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
(£12.49) £14.99
(£12.49)
Sub Total : £540.89
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £20.10
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £112.20

FSX and TF2 aren't that resource intensive by modern standards.
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2400 3.10GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £139.99
1 x OcUK V-Line 221V2SB 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
1 x OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply £47.99
1 x Gigabyte H61M-S2V Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £43.98
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £37.99
1 x GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Dual Channel (GVP34GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £687.79 (includes shipping : £13.75).



Trying a sandybridge 2400... Tight squeeze with windows. If you don't need windows, then it's a bit easier :)

£670 without shipping.


with no screen, no windows...

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK Motherboard Bundle - Intel Core i5 2500K & Asus P8P67 Intel P67 Mainboard **B3 Revision** £261.98
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 620W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £62.99
1 x Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £59.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD502HJ) £31.99
1 x GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Dual Channel (GVP34GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £650.92 (includes shipping : £12.50).



That is much better as far as component quality and 'future-proofing'. Can change motherboard to something else and whatnot. The case is quality, you can add a 3rd party cooler later (or now, but imo not necessary) for a 30% overclock, and the PSU can feed any high performance graphics card should you wish to upgrade in two years time.

I'd save £100 for a screen later and suffer a bit for a while. Using a computer with a TV is doable, even at 720p which is what laptops use. Better get a 1080p later though.
 
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olivier renault said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2400 3.10GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £139.99
1 x OcUK V-Line 221V2SB 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
1 x OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply £47.99
1 x Gigabyte H61M-S2V Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £43.98
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £37.99
1 x GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Dual Channel (GVP34GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £687.79 (includes shipping : £13.75).



Trying a sandybridge 2400... Tight squeeze with windows. If you don't need windows, then it's a bit easier :)

£670 without shipping.


with no screen, no windows...

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK Motherboard Bundle - Intel Core i5 2500K & Asus P8P67 Intel P67 Mainboard **B3 Revision** £261.98
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 620W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £62.99
1 x Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £59.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD502HJ) £31.99
1 x GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz VALUE PLUS Dual Channel (GVP34GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £650.92 (includes shipping : £12.50).



That is much better as far as component quality and 'future-proofing'. Can change motherboard to something else and whatnot. The case is quality, you can add a 3rd party cooler later (or now, but imo not necessary) for a 30% overclock, and the PSU can feed any high performance graphics card should you wish to upgrade in two years time.

I'd save £100 for a screen later and suffer a bit for a while. Using a computer with a TV is doable, even at 720p which is what laptops use. Better get a 1080p later though.
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Hi,

Thanks for the help. :) Is not having a full HDTV going to affect my gaming a lot? Any other opinions on just getting a PC build and using it with a non 1080p TV for now? ;)
 
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PermaBanned said:
Something along the lines of?

Product Name Qty Price Line Total
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6950 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE DIRT3 Game £181.99
(£151.66) £181.99
(£151.66)
BenQ G2222HDL 21.5" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £103.19
(£85.99) £103.19
(£85.99)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £83.99
(£69.99) £83.99
(£69.99)
Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 PCI-Express ATX Motherboard £79.99
(£66.66) £79.99
(£66.66)
Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £59.99
(£49.99) £59.99
(£49.99)
OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W Power Supply £39.98
(£33.32) £39.98
(£33.32)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
Corsair Value 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Low Voltage Dual-Channel Kit £29.98
(£24.98) £29.98
(£24.98)
DeepCool Ice Edge 400-FS Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1155/1156/775 and AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2/K8) £24.98
(£20.82) £24.98
(£20.82)
OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
(£12.49) £14.99
(£12.49)
Sub Total : £540.89
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £20.10
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £112.20

FSX and TF2 aren't that resource intensive by modern standards.
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Hi,

Thanks for your help. :) What do you think about not getting a monitor that is HD for now and sticking for the resolution I have atm? :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, if fsx it the main priority then I'd consider putting the money towards an i5 2500K and a NVIDIA card. Getting the i5 2500K will allow you to overclock the CPU (FSX runs smoother the higher the CPU clock).

You could get something like the following then save up for a nice 24" monitor seeing as you have your 720p HDTV at the moment rather than trying to squeeze a cheap 22" into your budget.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £161.99
1 x MSI P67A-C45 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £89.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W Power Supply £39.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £670.79 (includes shipping : £13.75).

Includes Windows. Add in an aftermarket cooler when your ready to overclock. (Personally I'd be tempted to buy this now, as it'll save you a bit of hassle later on). Overall the 2GB 6950 IMO is slightly better than the GTX560Ti (as it havs 2GB of VRAM) but for FSX the NVIDIA card will be better.
 
shadow_boxer said:
Yeah, if fsx it the main priority then I'd consider putting the money towards an i5 2500K and a NVIDIA card. Getting the i5 2500K will allow you to overclock the CPU (FSX runs smoother the higher the CPU clock).

You could get something like the following then save up for a nice 24" monitor seeing as you have your 720p HDTV at the moment rather than trying to squeeze a cheap 22" into your budget.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £161.99
1 x MSI P67A-C45 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £89.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W Power Supply £39.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £670.79 (includes shipping : £13.75).

Includes Windows. Add in an aftermarket cooler when your ready to overclock. (Personally I'd be tempted to buy this now, as it'll save you a bit of hassle later on). Overall the 2GB 6950 IMO is slightly better than the GTX560Ti (as it havs 2GB of VRAM) but for FSX the NVIDIA card will be better.
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I don't need to buy a copy of windows, so what do you think of this:-

Use that 60 odd pounds to get an aftermarket cooler and upgrade to the 2GB 6950? :) Thanks for you help btw. :p I would like to play other games such as BF3 in the future hopefully too.
 
I would save the money towards better components, mainly power supply, case (although the Z9 ain't bad at all), and motherboard. After market coolers can wait imo. Again, if this is primarily FSX, I'd look up comparisons between a 560ti and a 6950 2GB in terms of performance. You may find that the 560 actually performs better. You may also find that overclocking a 2500K is beneficial and an after market cooler is the way to go :) I would change the PSU though, I don't like those OCZ too much, and you should able to afford something better suited.

As for gaming on lower res, you get better framerates, but image quality not so sharp obviously. It's mainly a desktop thing, higher resolution is better for browsing and watching 1080p videos.
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6950 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Dirt3 PC Game £209.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £161.99
1 x MSI P67A-C45 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £89.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £41.99
1 x OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W Power Supply £39.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £674.88 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Or get the GTX560Ti and put savings towards monitor.
 
shadow_boxer said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI ATI Radeon HD 6950 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Dirt3 PC Game £209.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £161.99
1 x MSI P67A-C45 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £89.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £41.99
1 x OCZ StealthXStream 2 500W Power Supply £39.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £29.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £674.88 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Or get the GTX560Ti and put savings towards monitor.
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Or get the GTX560Ti and bump up another PC component? lol I won't be getting a new TV/monitor for a while... :( What about getting a 500GB HDD for now and putting that towards bumping up a PC component too? :)
 
MSI GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card MSI GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £239.99
(£199.99) £239.99
(£199.99)
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £161.99
(£134.99) £161.99
(£134.99)
Asus P8P67 LE Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** *LOWEST UK PRICE* Asus P8P67 LE Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** *LOWEST UK PRICE* £78.98
(£65.82) £78.98
(£65.82)
Antec High Current Gamer 620W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply Antec High Current Gamer 620W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £62.99
(£52.49) £62.99
(£52.49)
Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £37.99
(£31.66) £37.99
(£31.66)
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £29.99
(£24.99) £29.99
(£24.99)
OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
(£12.49) £14.99
(£12.49)
Sub Total : £547.42
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £11.25
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £111.73
Total : £670.40

im sure you can strech by 40p? :D
sorry cant do it the fancy way as im using firefoz due to my chrome acting up on me.
 
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