Is Lewis Hamilton the GOAT (this thread is about Lewis as an F1 driver, not anything else)?

Entai said:
Indeed maybe the thread title does need changing, and maybe the definition of GOAT needs clarifying.

We are in the Motorsport forum.

The thread is titled "Is Lewis Hamilton the GOAT"

Obviously thread title then enquiring is Lewis Hamilton the GOAT of Motorsport.

And the answer is extremely clearly NO.

No one is saying Hamilton is a bad driver, he is an extremely good driver, but in no way is he, or will he ever be, the GOAT of motorsport, or F1.

To me, to become the GOAT by any meanigful metric, a driver must hold a record that can never ever beaten, evee again, thus making them the Greatest Of ALL TIME.


Every stat where Lewis is currently number one, could obe day in the future be beaten one day by another driver. How many people thought Schumacher's records would never be beaten, yet they have.


As I have said previously the GOAT of Motorsport is clearly John Surtees, his record will never be beaten, as he is the only one ever to be world champion in two different forms of Motorsport.


IF you want to change thread to who is the GOAT of F1.

Then again that answer is very simple

It is Juan Manuel Fangio.

Again with a record that will never be beaten.

World Champion five times in four different teams.

We have had a few (Prost, Schumacher, Hamilton) becoming World Champion in two different teams, but no one will ever do it in four teams again.

So whichever way you word it Hamilton is a great driver, but never the GOAT.
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Imo Lewis Hamilton is the GOAT of f1 and that's my opinion.

Not fact. It can never be fact even if Lewis wins an 8th title
 
Stumble Bum said:
Well it's Russell's first few races in a completely new team, in comparison to someone who's known that team inside out for many many years, as said this is a discussion about if Ham is a Goat. Not just, is he better than his team mate. If you are a goat shouldn't you be consistently proving yourself to be a fair bit quicker than a new team mate? I know it's still very early in the season, but I don't think anyone can saying Lewis is doing well so far.
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So Ronaldo and Messi are not goat contenders either because of how average they are currently playing in football? Gotcha
 
Stumble Bum said:
This analogy makes zero sense, but that is not surprising from you.
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How so? Both are not as great as before.

My point is, no driver/ sports person stays on top forever and you simply cannot ignore the history books of what Hamilton has achieved.

If sir George Russell wins 8 championship titles and breaks or come close to Hamiltons other records, then we can talk
 
Bald-Eagle22 said:
13th



Ok hands up I’ve watched Nico commentate all weekend and I’ll 100% agree here, wow he really was sticking the knife in every time he could. Ive also kept an eye on Lewis all weekend , mentally I don’t think he’s in a good place. Today will only compound it.
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7 time world champion vs 0 for Russell.

Let that sink in.

This thread is all about his majority stint at f1 as a whole compared to just one race this weekend..

Do you judge if a driver is a GOAT after one race?....
 
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