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Is my issue with my 7900 XT? Drivers? PSU? Motherboard?

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I've never been a fan of NZXT stuff. That is cheap for a 1200W though, maybe too cheap...


I have looked at the Antecs, although not recently I looked at an 850W SFX PSU they did. They're probably good, but they're expensive.


The Superflower was the way I was leaning, like @tamzzy I have one of the OG Leadexs in another PC.
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it's the atx3.0 version rather than 3.1 version..the 3.1 version have just altered the legth of the little pins on the 6x2 connector..because of that, this version has been reduced in price. my last 2 psu's been corsair rmx's(the rm1000x shift and the non shift before that..before that had a seasonic..love the shift and ability to plug cables in and out without having to take psu out, but it's more expensive)..the review was pretty good for the nzxt, so thought would throw it up there..ocuk do have it's bigger brother the c1500 in 3.1 version which is £269 if it makes you feel better :cry: . the reviews put it just behind the msi 1600 med and asus thor, both of which are over £500..also has dual 2x6 pin connectors, so if nvidia go more powerful and don't change connectors, should cover any 800w gpu's they decide to make down the line..if they start sucking too much power, will be like my induction hob and need it's own circuit braker in fuse box and dedicated cable with switch...
though seeing as you have a amd card, maybe the corsair psu's aren't that bad a shout..need to double check the new 1000x(and it was just reduced to £144) but my shift doesn't have a native 2x6 connector, rather a 2 pcie to 2x6 pin cable...(which works fine with the9070xt nitro+ I got..)..just meansd you have more pcie connectors on the psu, which is what your 7900xt uses anyway
then again, the superflower is cheaper and will be equally as good
 
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I'm trying to raise an RMA on the graphics card because it now seems one of the HDMI ports is faulty and has been since I got the card. OcUK support are being a pain though, they take about 36 hours to respond and each time the just want higher and higher resolution photos taken closer and closer to the HDMI port (I don't know what they're expecting to see, it looks fine, it just doesn't work). So I'm hoping to get through that before the warranty expires next year.

I'm sort of reluctant to buy a new PSU until that's sorted in case it's the graphics card that's at fault rather than the PSU.
 
Reinstalled the 25.3.2 drivers, not sure if it's made any difference to the other issue due to it sometimes being less frequent, it has however given me the issue in Black Ops 6 (and maybe others I've not tried yet) of the screen very quickly flickering to black (for like split seconds) quite frequently.

I always seem to have fun with AMD cards and yet I keep buying them...
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Reinstalled the 25.3.2 drivers, not sure if it's made any difference to the other issue due to it sometimes being less frequent, it has however given me the issue in Black Ops 6 (and maybe others I've not tried yet) of the screen very quickly flickering to black (for like split seconds) quite frequently.

I always seem to have fun with AMD cards and yet I keep buying them...
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I had that, esp if i dragged a tab out of chrome..went into (setting/system and disabled graphic acceleration) which solved that in chrome. Also went into bios and diabled the igpu of the cpu as in adrenaline they were both showing up and might of conflicted with each other.....i don't know, 1st amd gpu...but not had a problem since
 
So bit of an update here. I've mentioned this in other threads but thought I'd put it all together here.
Got the card RMA'd and got a B-Grade Sapphire Pulse 7900XT as a replacement.
Since installing that card I've been getting other errors.
For a while, when playing Black Ops 6 I was regularly getting driver crash, game crash and quite often a minute or so later a blue screen with the error "Driver Power State Failure".
I've swapped power supplies, uninstalled and re-installed AMD driver, set the card to stock, underclocked the card, reset graphics setting in Black Ops 6 but it still crashes.
I'm now getting the DirectX error "0x887a0005 (0x887a0007) (3488651598) d", which I believe relates to VRAM?
I've tried other games such as PUBG which does seem to have issues where both screens go black but do eventually recover and the game is still running. There was no message saying the driver had crashed.
I tried Subnautica and this is less predictable, but I have had the AMD drivers crash while playing this, didn't get a DirectX error message with that though.
Tried a bit of Crusader Kings 3 and that was fine, but didn't really seem to push the CPU or GPU.

I'm running out of ideas now. Does this sound like a GPU issue? Could it be a CPU issue? RAM issue? Motherboard issue?
I had the CPU and RAM running together in a different PC, but the motherboard and SSDs are brand new (as is the GPU as it's a B-Grade RMA replacement).

I could put my 4060Ti in the PC and test it with that, but since it draws less power and is a less powerful card I'm not sure if that would prove much, unless I got the same issues with that card. Not sure how to narrow down the cause of the issue.

EDIT: If I take the framerate limiters and VSync off in game Black Ops 6 will crash on the menus.
 
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I think this is a PSU issue. You're getting black screens. Game crashes. BSODs mentioning "Driver Power State".

How old did you say your current PSU is? I think the AX1200 had a short warranty, like 7 years? I'd honestly be looking at a new ATX3.1 PSU. :)

You need to be handling any transient power spikes, which TechPowerUp noted hitting up to 412W for 20ms, from a max noted consumption of 320W.

Funnily enough I commented in another thread last year, about similar:
"...I saw a reddit post where they make mention of transient spikes and they said, "Gamer's Nexus' video on the 7900 XT/XTX showed it can spike up to 196% of its rated TDP, so up to 700W for <5ms.""
 
I swapped the PSU for a SuperFlower 1200W.
It's not brand new but it was running the pre-RMA 7900XT in another system for a while (actually with the same CPU too, a lot of the same parts really, new motherboard).
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
I swapped the PSU for a SuperFlower 1200W.
It's not brand new but it was running the pre-RMA 7900XT in another system for a while (actually with the same CPU too, a lot of the same parts really, new motherboard).
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How old is the SuperFlower PSU?

So the pre-RMA 7900XT was OK on the SuperFlower or still had problems? If it was OK, then we can maybes deduce that it was PSU related and that the issue was resolved by replacing the PSU??? But... now we have a B-Grade replacement that is fubar?

My head hurts lol. :cry: As does yours probably too!
 
I'm not sure how these things work but it is a shame you couldn't have sent back the original 7900XT, and if OCUK said "we only have B-grade replacements", asked instead if you could pay the difference to go to a 9070XT. OCUK are selling the 7900XT for £600 and the 9070XT for £649. But it probably doesn't work like that.
 
Firegod said:
I'm not sure how these things work but it is a shame you couldn't have sent back the original 7900XT, and if OCUK said "we only have B-grade replacements", asked instead if you could pay the difference to go to a 9070XT. OCUK are selling the 7900XT for £600 and the 9070XT for £649. But it probably doesn't work like that.
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Indeed.
Or even the reference 7900XT.

Although just because it new doesn't mean it won't have issues.
I still can't be 100% sure it's not the CPU, RAM or motherboard but I have at least had the CPU and motherboard working in a sort of different PC. Plus the issues do seem to be display related.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Indeed.
Or even the reference 7900XT.

Although just because it new doesn't mean it won't have issues.
I still can't be 100% sure it's not the CPU, RAM or motherboard but I have at least had the CPU and motherboard working in a sort of different PC. Plus the issues do seem to be display related.
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Aye they do all seem display related. What you doing next? Going to send CS another web note and say this B-Grade GPU is worse than what you sent back (i.e. it only had one broken HDMI port)? It seems you're not the first person to be sent a B-Grade GPU with problems.
 
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Aye they do all seem display related. What you doing next? Going to send CS another web note and say this B-Grade GPU is worse than what you sent back (i.e. it only had one broken HDMI port)? It seems you're not the first person to be sent a B-Grade GPU with problems.
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I have already gotten back to them about the issue, they asked me to test in other games.

The thing that worries me is that even if they do let me send it back, I'm worried that it's harder to re-create (since I can't get it to do it in benchmarks). Maybe if they test it at 1080p it doesn't happen, maybe if they test it on a 4k/60Hz screen it doesn't happen, maybe if they don't use 2 4k/120Hz screens it doesn't happen (or at least far less frequently) or any of a number of other things. While it may be an issue with the graphics card, it might be a perfect storm that actually causes the issue to occur.
 
I must say that the fact OCUK send out B grade stock as a replacement for faulty newly purchased items puts me off buying anything of value from them.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
I have already gotten back to them about the issue, they asked me to test in other games.

The thing that worries me is that even if they do let me send it back, I'm worried that it's harder to re-create (since I can't get it to do it in benchmarks). Maybe if they test it at 1080p it doesn't happen, maybe if they test it on a 4k/60Hz screen it doesn't happen, maybe if they don't use 2 4k/120Hz screens it doesn't happen (or at least far less frequently) or any of a number of other things. While it may be an issue with the graphics card, it might be a perfect storm that actually causes the issue to occur.
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When ocuk support tested my GPU recently, they used the Black Myth Wukong benchmark tool at 1440p default settings. You can download it for free on Steam, it's only 7GB. It might be better than other benchmark tools to test stability, since it uses an actual UE5 game. Give it a try.
 
to be honest ocuk are really good with testing, especially if you tell them how to test to replicate the issue. as i mentioned in the amd driver thread i had a psu that couldnt push the rated voltage along the rails and i suggested that is the case to them and told them how in tested it and they effectively confirmed that my analysis was correct and the rails where indeed bad and gave me a full refund on a 6 year old odd psu. (10 year warranty). cant fault there testing on returned items.
 
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