Is the 8800GT really getting that hot?

[GregI]

Going to buy most of my pc parts tommorow from oc(hoping for a discount )

Anyway, i was wondering if the BFG OC2 edition really is worth getting over a 3870 due to the temperatures?

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-053-BG

I mean i am not wanting the card at 60 idle all the time(looked at reviews)

But i suppose if i use ntune and put fan upto high, aswell as opening my window to let the card get used to current -14 temps in Scotland it will be about 20

Your thoughts please?

 

[RaiderX]

the 8800 GT is faster than the 3870, if it gets hot just stick fan upto 50% in rivatuner and its still silent

 

[dbmzk1]

As long as the card works, why does it matter what temperature it is?

 

[Raikiri]

the 8800 GT is faster than the 3870, if it gets hot just stick fan upto 50% in rivatuner and its still silent

The newer revision fan maybe, the old one was no where near quiet let alone silent at 50%.

Anyway, yes they do get that hot but it isn't anything to worry about.

 

[C64]

accelero s1 cooler and bios flash with 1.1 volts and your overclock of choice is the way forward then you dont need to use rivatuner.

 

[mdk88]

It really depends on your cooling mate, and don't be fooled into the pre-conception that only antecs and other top range cases produce good temps.

I run my rig in a z-Alien case that cost £11 with two 90mm side fans and a zalman cpu cooler, and get 25 degrees CPU, 27 degrees system and 39 degrees 8800GT BFG OC at idle. ( card fan speed is set to 60% at all times via rivatuner and i cant hear it )

I had one of the first batch 8800GT's (BFG OC) and i ran it at 75% fan, the temps were like 45 degrees idle and it used to be SO loud. That card died and i returned it, the new one is silent at 60% speed in my case and 5 degrees lower idle temperature.

So in my experience, the new cards with the bigger fan aren't that hot, nothing out of the ordinary.

Btw the max temperature my card has reached is 56 degrees, with the room roasting and playing COD4 for 3 hours.

 

[C64]

It really depends on your cooling mate, and don't be fooled into the pre-conception that only antecs and other top range cases produce good temps.

I run my rig in a z-Alien case that cost £11 with two 90mm side fans and a zalman cpu cooler, and get 25 degrees CPU, 27 degrees system and 39 degrees 8800GT BFG OC at idle. ( card fan speed is set to 60% at all times via rivatuner and i cant hear it )

I had one of the first batch 8800GT's (BFG OC) and i ran it at 75% fan, the temps were like 45 degrees idle and it used to be SO loud. That card died and i returned it, the new one is silent at 60% speed in my case and 5 degrees lower idle temperature.

So in my experience, the new cards with the bigger fan aren't that hot, nothing out of the ordinary.

Btw the max temperature my card has reached is 56 degrees, with the room roasting and playing COD4 for 3 hours.

any proof of those idle temps with stock cooling ? sorry but don't believe you as 99.9% of us get 50c + on stock cooling even on 100% fan wow you also get 56c max temp ? you must have a one off 8800gt then 60% fan speed is nowhere near silent also

 

[mdk88]

Honestly mate.

i can screenshot it for you tomorrow or something, i'm actually in bed now on the laptop

add [email protected] or xfire: kojez

I wouldn't lie as i have nothing to gain from it :x

Furthermore, the card i got backafter i RMA'd the original had a much bigger fan and perhaps you have a first batch card as opposed to one with new revised cooling ?

 

[GregI]

So it's just luck if i get a bigger fan on my 8800gt?

LOL at pc builders having to partake in russian roulette just to get what they pay for.

 

[V1N]

As long as the card works, why does it matter what temperature it is?

I'm with this comment.

Mine idles at 61, and under load can go into the 90s.

So what?

It's obviously designed to do so.

The old Nvidia drivers used to be good, as they'd show you the current temp, and the temp at which the card would start to slow down.

My 7900GTO used to run at high 30s, and get to the 50s under load.

My 8800GT is as above.

I had to borrow my Brothers old 5900PCE card last year, when I had to return a card, and it ran at 120 degrees... I couldn't believe it, so I took a snapshot, I'll see if I can find it.... yeah, got it, that's what I meant, you can see the current temperature, and the Core Slowdown threshold



As you can see, I even took a snapshot, to mail to him, as I couldn't believe the temps I was getting, because as I said, I was getting 40deg idle from my 7900, in the same case/system.

That was normal for his card though.
It always ran, and still does, at that temperature.

Granted, that IS a bit extreme, and made my CPU fan run at 900rpm instead of the usual 700 odd, but still safe, and working!

In comparison, the 60 deg idle and 90 load of my 8800GT are nothing
Unfortuntely, my driver (is it just the vista version?) doesn't show the Core slowdown threshold, but the card works fine, so I don't worry about it.
I could turn the fan up, but I hate the noise it makes, and besides, why bother? I'm sure it'll last long enough to be an old card, in need of upgrading.

My Brother's 5900 PCX has been running like that for years, and is still running fine (except for modern games)

V1N.

EDIT: Does anybody know what the actual "Core Slowdown Threshold" is for the 8800GT?

 

[RaiderX]

*snip*

could boil water on that thing

 

[Raikiri]

Slowdown threshold is 115c iirc.

So it's just luck if i get a bigger fan on my 8800gt?

LOL at pc builders having to partake in russian roulette just to get what they pay for.

They're paying for an 8800GT and that's exactly what they're getting. The upgraded fan (which barely cools any better, it's just quieter) is just a bonus, they could have left it as is.

 

[Tooks]

I don't know what the core threshold is on these cards, but I agree that although they do seem hot compared to cards that have gone before, as long as they carry on working I don't really mind!

My two in SLI idle at 60 - 65c, and during games hit 90+. I leave the fans on automatic via Ntune, which means the fans are at 29% pretty much all the time. They only get quicker during a prolonged gaming session. I can set my fans at 50% which isn't too loud, but still annoying as everything else in my comp is pretty quiet. It does drop idle and load temps by about 10c, although that hardly seems worth it for the noise penalty.

I have thought about putting accelero's on them, but that cooler is too wide and would clash with some water pipe routing, so thought about maybe a couple of Vf700/900's which although not as good as the accelero, would be better than the stock fans.

That's another £50/60 though!

So, If they go wrong, they go back, simple as that. It's what the warranty is for!

 

[.Lethal]

could boil water on that thing

90 degrees!?!?!!! That would scare the crap out of me if my card was at that temp often. Thankfully my 8800GTS 512mb card idles at 40degrees and after a full day of gaming its no higher than 60-65degrees with all the default settings on the fan speed and game settings on max.

Dont mean to trash the thread, 90 is just

I use to have a X1800 XT up until a week ago and I hated that, got hot and was loud. It just bothers me knowing a card is hot (and loud).

 

[V1N]

Slowdown threshold is 115c iirc.

Good to know, thanks.
90 deg is nothing then

(plus of course, I wasn't worried, as if the card did actually start to get too hot, then I'd imagine the fan would've sped up So far, I've never heard it, except for when I first power the system on, or manually turning it up with RivaTuner for testing purposes.
V1N.

 

[Raikiri]

Mine got up to 96c with the default fan settings, at 95 it went up to about 50% fan speed which I found annoyingly loud. Had it remained quiet throughout use it wouldn't have bothered me personally.

Don't have to worry now though with the behemoth Accelero S1/120mm Yate

 

[V1N]

90 degrees!?!?!!! That would scare the crap out of me if my card was at that temp often. Thankfully my 8800GTS 512mb card idles at 40degrees and after a full day of gaming its no higher than 60-65degrees with all the default settings on the fan speed and game settings on max.

Dont mean to trash the thread, 90 is just

I use to have a X1800 XT up until a week ago and I hated that, got hot and was loud. It just bothers me knowing a card is hot (and loud).

Out of interest, why does it scare the crap out of you?

All these cards have different operational temperatures, and safe levels.
Look at my Brother's 5900, was safe up until 140 deg!

My GTO ran around the 40s, my new card idles in the 60s, and under load, I've had it up to 95 at max, during an overclocked, and long, Crysis session.
The fan never went above default.

It's not unsafe, they're designed to run at that temperature, or the fan would go mental and speed up to 100%, and the thing would just artifact, and crash.

Nothing to worry about as far as I'm concerned.

I also considered that Accelero S1 cooler from OCUK.
I liked the idea of passive cooling, and for £16 seemed ideal.

Now I've had the card a while, and even after a good gaming session, the temp doesn't go high enough to make the fan audible, so I don't need one.

No need for it to scare the crap out of you.
Your GTS is obviously designed to run cooler, so if it did run at 90 deg, there probably would be something wrong, and I'd be checking the fan for dirt.

The GT is designed to run hotter, and 90 deg seems to be the norm, under load, with the stock cooler, so it's nothing to require a change of underpants over. It runs fine. I'm still dead chuffed with mine, and recommending them to everybody OCUK will be getting several more orders very soon, maybe I should claim a comission?

Now, to find out what these new AA modes are, and which is best to use... *hinting at other thread I made this morning*
V1N.

 

[V1N]

Mine got up to 96c with the default fan settings, at 95 it went up to about 50% fan speed which I found annoyingly loud. Had it remained quiet throughout use it wouldn't have bothered me personally.

Don't have to worry now though with the behemoth Accelero S1/120mm Yate

Out of interest, now you've posted yours went up to 96 with default fan settings, and interesting to know the fan sped up at 95, which goes to show that mine obviously isn't going above 93 much... RivaTuner monitor did report a max of 95, but maybe this was just for a second, I certainly never heard the fan.

Anyway, yes, out of interest, what are your temps now with the Accelero system? Did you try it with and without the fan? Was it easy to fit? What about ram cooling, it just fitted straight on, no hassle?

I ask, as after just stating that I considered it, and decided against, if the temps are really a lot better, with just the passive cooling, then I could consider it again, for the sake of £16, to see what overclocking benefits it could give.

V1N.

 

[Raikiri]

Easy to fit although the ramsinks aren't particularly sticky (less of an issue for me as my motherboard is 'upside down').

Without the fan I believe it was in the region of 45-50 idle and 68-70 load, now it's 30-36 idle and 39-47 load depending on the ambient temp and which game/test I am running.

Currently at 729 core, 1822 shaders and 1975 memory. I didn't try that high with the stock cooler as I didn't want the fan to spin up any more, so I can't say it helped me OC more.

 

[V1N]

Easy to fit although the ramsinks aren't particularly sticky (less of an issue for me as my motherboard is 'upside down').

Without the fan I believe it was in the region of 45-50 idle and 68-70 load, now it's 30-36 idle and 39-47 load depending on the ambient temp and which game/test I am running.

Currently at 729 core, 1822 shaders and 1975 memory. I didn't try that high with the stock cooler as I didn't want the fan to spin up any more, so I can't say it helped me OC more.

Wow, quite an amazing difference in temps!
I'll think about it in the new year.
I'm happy with the stock cooler for now, as I can't hear it, but we'll see what happens... especially when Summer comes back

Thanks for the info,
V1N.