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Has this been released yet? or will it ever?
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is there a 6 core Ivybridge ?
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thanks for the reply. A friend of mines considering a 3930K but I said it might pay to wait to see if there an ivybridge equivalent coming out soon. think he'll just stump up for the 3930K now. might as well seen as its a way off.
I heard the 3930K actually has 8 cores but 2 were disabled, if only you could enable them! hence why as you say the up and coming ivybridge is gonna be 8 core.
I heard the 3930K actually has 8 cores but 2 were disabled, if only you could enable them! hence why as you say the up and coming ivybridge is gonna be 8 core.
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Every SB-E CPU has 8 cores but they are usally 2 of them are defective/disabled. The ones that are not they are 8 core xeons.
Apart from the 3820
. Every 6 core SB-E CPU has 8 cores with 2 disabled. I expect the following Ivy Bridge CPUs on LGA2011 next year.
1 x Cheap 4 core (Unlocked "K")
1 x Cheap 6 core
1 x Expensive 6 core (unlocked "K")
2 x Expensive 8 core (one unlocked "K"/"Extreme" version)
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by cheap 6 core do mean £600 is RRP?lol
Non has 8 Cores enabled though which we can use. Only Xeons do as you correctly say, but non are unlocked at all so can only be limited BLK clocked.
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Why do they need to, they have no competition at all. Much cheaper for them to add a few % clock for clock each year and die shrink!
I can't imagine seeing massive processor performance jumps until/if ever AMD produce a killer chip.
I can't imagine seeing massive processor performance jumps until/if ever AMD produce a killer chip.
Indeed, but what will Haswell bring us in terms of it's architecture? Ivy Bridge, just gave us a better IGP, will they improve on that again?
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SB-E doesn't have an IGP, maybe IB-E wont either, leaves more room for, to quote Jeremy Clarkson, POOOWWAAAA!
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No it's not, Haswell is a new architecture, IB was the die shrink of SB.
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No one's expecting very much from Haswell CPU side but, AMD are pushing towards more utilisation of the GPU for CPU duties, and Intel is going the same way, not sure Intel are ready for any new CPU/GPU architecture which will leverage the power brilliantly, but I'd expect quicksync style features to be improved, more widespread, and more supported. Likewise the quite probably on die memory will potentially give huge improvements in speed for things that can utilise the CPU.
IE a lot of the effective CPU power increase could be from the GPU, so the more powerful GPU could be very useful to everyone.
Then you've got a mature 22nm process, and a mature chip that has spent more time being designed for 22nm from the ground up, and with tweaks/improvements based on their experiences with Ivybridge, so even if IPC is similar, it could clock significantly further.
I wouldn't write off Haswell yet in terms of CPU power, I'm also not completely convinced Intel has been completely honest with where the "mainstream" range will be.
They've said mainstream is basically dual channel, quad cores, 6-8 cores would be wasted on dual channel mem but triple/quad channel mem is simply far to expensive for your average "dell" box. I think we might actually see 6-8 cores in a "upper" mainstream bracket, as yet not really talked about.
Think of it like 285gtx(hex core Sandy, expensive boards, expensive features, too much) high end, 9800gtx(quad core, dual channel cheapy) midrange, moving to a 580gtx/560ti/550ti setup.
Maybe pushing in a upper midrange platform, not as cheap as a 2500k, not as expensive as a hex core Sandy.
That's what I'm hoping for anyway, I can understand Intel's main platform not being more than dual channel/quad core, but throwing away octo dies as a cut down part isn't hugely profitable for them either and the price of mobo's/chips puts off most people. A cheaper tri/quad channel, hexcore die that is cheaper to make and cheaper mobo's would sell pretty well right now.
IE a lot of the effective CPU power increase could be from the GPU, so the more powerful GPU could be very useful to everyone.
Then you've got a mature 22nm process, and a mature chip that has spent more time being designed for 22nm from the ground up, and with tweaks/improvements based on their experiences with Ivybridge, so even if IPC is similar, it could clock significantly further.
I wouldn't write off Haswell yet in terms of CPU power, I'm also not completely convinced Intel has been completely honest with where the "mainstream" range will be.
They've said mainstream is basically dual channel, quad cores, 6-8 cores would be wasted on dual channel mem but triple/quad channel mem is simply far to expensive for your average "dell" box. I think we might actually see 6-8 cores in a "upper" mainstream bracket, as yet not really talked about.
Think of it like 285gtx(hex core Sandy, expensive boards, expensive features, too much) high end, 9800gtx(quad core, dual channel cheapy) midrange, moving to a 580gtx/560ti/550ti setup.
Maybe pushing in a upper midrange platform, not as cheap as a 2500k, not as expensive as a hex core Sandy.
That's what I'm hoping for anyway, I can understand Intel's main platform not being more than dual channel/quad core, but throwing away octo dies as a cut down part isn't hugely profitable for them either and the price of mobo's/chips puts off most people. A cheaper tri/quad channel, hexcore die that is cheaper to make and cheaper mobo's would sell pretty well right now.