Is there a definitive date for Broadwell CPU release?

planeswalker85 · 1 Apr 2015 at 01:05

So far all my google-fu has turned up only 'predictions' and I was thinking of upgrading my computer in a few months time. I know Skylake is delayed till end of this year/next year but heard nothing about the Broadwell.

Thanks for any info

Dave2150 · 1 Apr 2015 at 04:42

Broadwell was pretty much cancelled, Intel will only release 2 mainsteam Broadwell CPU's, and they are not successors to the 4790k devil's canyon (haswell) chips currently available.

These two Broadwell desktop CPU's will include 'Iris Pro', as such Intel is aiming them towards small factor PC's/mini PC's, where you wouldn't use a seperate GPU.

Skylake isn't delayed, it should be arriving Q3 this year, I'd advise waiting for that if you're able to.

Sylver123 · 1 Apr 2015 at 05:17

I assume they are still planning to bring out Broadwell for the X99 platform at the end of the year or early next year or perhaps even something else?

planeswalker85 · 3 Apr 2015 at 22:58

I see, thanks for the info Dave2150, do you know any link to any sites that have the specs for Skylake? Its just that my intel 3570k is abit long in the tooth now, though it works fine overclocked, I think my Mobo is starting to give up the ghost, hence I was looking forward to getting Broadwell or Skylake, which I can wait for.

Dave2150 · 4 Apr 2015 at 01:51

planeswalker85 said:
I see, thanks for the info Dave2150, do you know any link to any sites that have the specs for Skylake? Its just that my intel 3570k is abit long in the tooth now, though it works fine overclocked, I think my Mobo is starting to give up the ghost, hence I was looking forward to getting Broadwell or Skylake, which I can wait for.

The only official information we have from Intel is that Skylake will be 14nm and will have a TDP of 95W.

There are loads of rumours about the performance, though none have any concrete information. The general consensus though is that Skylake is likely to be a big step forward, so definitely worth waiting for, considering it's on a new socket that will be around for years.

Dave2150 · 4 Apr 2015 at 01:57

Sylver123 said:
I assume they are still planning to bring out Broadwell for the X99 platform at the end of the year or early next year or perhaps even something else?

Nothing official from Intel. They may end up skipping it, though I think they'll be pressured to release a broadwell part for X99, simply as it's become expected for the enthusiasts chipset (x58, x79, x99) to have two generations of CPU's in their lifecycle

Orangey · 4 Apr 2015 at 02:16

I'm hoping they will skip Broadwell-E and just release Skylake-E as with mainstream.

Telecaster · 4 Apr 2015 at 13:17

Big X99 sell off then if they aren't getting another chip?

WingZero30 · 4 Apr 2015 at 14:06

Orangey said:
I'm hoping they will skip Broadwell-E and just release Skylake-E as with mainstream.

According to this roadmap, Broadwell-E would be releasing in Q1 2016.

http://wccftech.com/intel-2015-2016...adwell-kseries-q2-broadwelle-arrives-q1-2016/

HEDT is a small niche market catering only for the enthusiasts and since Intel are alone in this market, I don't think they are under any pressure to skip a generation in this regard.
If Broadwell-E does release in Q1 2016, then going by the traditional product life cycle, this would put Skylake-E release date around Q1 2017 imo.

However plans can change and I do wish that Broadwell-E is released earlier atleast in Q3 2015 one year after Haswell-E. So Skylake-E can be released in Q3 2016.
Otherwise there would be almost 1.5 years gap between the release of Skylake mainstream (Aug-Oct 2015) and Skylake-E (Q1 2017). Ofcourse the release date period of Skylake-E is speculation on my part and I am basing my projection of Skylake-E release on Q1 2016 Broadwell-E release date.

Telecaster · 4 Apr 2015 at 16:53

Do the 'E' chips not release roughly just before the new chip? IE Broadwell-E will land just before we get Skylake desktop?

C64 · 4 Apr 2015 at 17:06

well they have to don't they they still advertising z97 boards as supporting broadwell so....

Dave2150 · 4 Apr 2015 at 20:19

C64 said:
well they have to don't they they still advertising z97 boards as supporting broadwell so....

Yeh, though it's only two CPU's that will be released, and they are not 4790k successors - they are lower clocked variants with the best IGPU onboard, so aimed for small PC's with no dedicated graphics card.

In other words, not the successor to Haswell/Devil's canyon that we came to expect.

Mal X · 4 Apr 2015 at 20:32

X99 will probably be a waste of time until they can get a really powerful CPU for it, plus drop the price of the Memory. :eek:

Sylver123 · 5 Apr 2015 at 00:17

Dave2150 said:
Yeh, though it's only two CPU's that will be released, and they are not 4790k successors - they are lower clocked variants with the best IGPU onboard, so aimed for small PC's with no dedicated graphics card.

In other words, not the successor to Haswell/Devil's canyon that we came to expect.

Here's just hoping Broadwell-E won't be just the same, lower clocked variants with the IGPU onboard and uses less power and they are not Haswell-E successors.

Boomstick777 · 5 Apr 2015 at 10:38

Broadwell for desktop seems AWOL atm. Hopefully we get at least one high end 1150 Broadwell chip, sure we were told Z97 would be Broadwell compatible as Devil's Canyon was more to make up for 4770K heat issues than a true new gen of chips. So without Broadwell Intel have shafted us Z97 owners tbh lol.

If Broadwell doesn't come to 1150 properly will be much disappoint. Didn't want to have to change mobo / mem for Skylake yet.

Come on Intel give us a 5770K on Broadwell !!

Dave2150 · 5 Apr 2015 at 16:36

Boomstick777 said:
Broadwell for desktop seems AWOL atm. Hopefully we get at least one high end 1150 Broadwell chip, sure we were told Z97 would be Broadwell compatible as Devil's Canyon was more to make up for 4770K heat issues than a true new gen of chips. So without Broadwell Intel have shafted us Z97 owners tbh lol.

If Broadwell doesn't come to 1150 properly will be much disappoint. Didn't want to have to change mobo / mem for Skylake yet.

Come on Intel give us a 5770K on Broadwell !!

Broadwel for 1150 will only have two skews available, an I5 and an I7.

They feature 700Mhz slower clocks (standard and turbo) than the 4790k, 2MB less L3 cache and 128MB l4 cache (from the Iris Pro GPU).

When Intel announced them, they spoke of their use in small factor PC's/mini PC's, probably intended for use without a dedicated GPU.

So in other words, these CPU's are direct replacements for the 4770R (http://ark.intel.com/products/76642/Intel-Core-i7-4770R-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18662393

Martini1991 · 5 Apr 2015 at 17:21

Think it's Intel showing how far ahead they are, rather than releasing a performance part.

That IGP, that CPU, that TDP.

opethdisciple · 5 Apr 2015 at 19:28

Dave2150 said:
The only official information we have from Intel is that Skylake will be 14nm and will have a TDP of 95W.

There are loads of rumours about the performance, though none have any concrete information. The general consensus though is that Skylake is likely to be a big step forward, so definitely worth waiting for, considering it's on a new socket that will be around for years.

And when is Skylake due?

Wikipedia seems to suggest this year! :cool:

smilertoo · 5 Apr 2015 at 19:35

95w is a 50% jump in TDP, I wonder what they're adding to cause that.

Dave2150 · 5 Apr 2015 at 19:40

opethdisciple said:
And when is Skylake due?

Wikipedia seems to suggest this year!

The last leaked Intel slide said 2H of 2015 - so anytime from June to December.