is there any way to stop screen tearing?

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:37

other than turning on vysnc, is there any way to stop this? or is it just down to the fact my screen(s) cant process more than 60FPS so without new screen(s) im stuck with max 60FPS in games?

mufcmark · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:40

The only other option would be to get a 120hz monitor like this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-091-LG.

chaparral · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:41

Edit: to late...mufcmark already answered it

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:43

so what actually causes it? and is it the same with 120hz screen it will tear over 120FPS?

not really an option as i use my TV a lot for gaming

Emphacy · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:45

Why do you require over 60FPS? It's unnecessary unless you have superhuman vision and can notice the difference between 60 and 120...

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:48

Emphacy said:
Why do you require over 60FPS? It's unnecessary unless you have superhuman vision and can notice the difference between 60 and 120...

i dont, but some games dont give me an option for vsync.

Surveyor · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:50

paradisiac said:
so what actually causes it? and is it the same with 120hz screen it will tear over 120FPS?

not really an option as i use my TV a lot for gaming

You get tearing because the GPU is outputting frames faster than the monitor can display them and the monitor ends up trying to display more than one frame in a single screen draw.

You get tearing at over 60fps on a 60 Hz monitor and you would get tearing at over 120fps on a 120Hz monitor.

chaparral · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:51

paradisiac said:
but some games dont give me an option for vsync.

You can force it on in the nvidia control panel so it would be enabled in all games...

Am sure ATI would have a settings in the control panel to do this as well..

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:52

Surveyor said:
You get tearing because the GPU is outputting frames faster than the monitor can display them and the monitor ends up trying to display more than one frame in a single screen draw.

You get tearing at over 60fps on a 60 Hz monitor and you would get tearing at over 120fps on a 120Hz monitor.

so why make cards capable of doing 200FPS+?

so, does that mean, in theory, having it vsynced @ 60FPS would mean i could have more settings on high than i would @ 120FPS as the cards are well below their max FPS capability?

andicole0 · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:54

Emphacy said:
Why do you require over 60FPS? It's unnecessary unless you have superhuman vision and can notice the difference between 60 and 120...

Running above 60fps is, for me anyway, something that feels better on the eyes, even if I can't 'see' the difference I can assure anyone that suffers from migraines it can be a great help.

Andi.

mmj_uk · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:56

chaparral said:
You can force it on in the nvidia control panel so it would be enabled in all games...

Am sure ATI would have a settings in the control panel to do this as well..

Nope they don't, the ATI option is only for OpenGL games of which 99% of games aren't, you need to download the D3DOverrider thing that comes with Rivatuner to do it on ATI cards.

Queue ATi fanboys justifying ATI's lack of such a simple option being because it's against Microsoft's wishes despite NVidia's addition of a force v-sync being 1> purely optional and 2> extremely useful.

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 14:58

mmj_uk said:
Nope they don't, the ATI option is only for OpenGL games of which 99% of games aren't, you need to download the D3DOverrider thing that comes with Rivatuner to do it on ATI cards.

Queue ATi fanboys arguing that it's against Microsoft's wishes despite NVidia's addition of a force v-sync being 1> purely optional and 2> extremely useful.

i have radeonpro or something, that gave me an option to force vsync, but didnt want to tick it as i didnt know what would happen if games had their own option for it, would it be counter productive.

Surveyor · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:01

andicole0 said:
Running above 60fps is, for me anyway, something that feels better on the eyes, even if I can't 'see' the difference I can assure anyone that suffers from migraines it can be a great help.

Andi.

I assume you have a monitor with a refresh rate above 60Hz?

Rroff · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:10

Emphacy said:
Why do you require over 60FPS? It's unnecessary unless you have superhuman vision and can notice the difference between 60 and 120...

Theres a lot more to it than purely what the eye can handle - as an aside the average human eye can detect changes to around 200th of a second although for gaming around 90fps is optimal and drops off fairly sharply after that.

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:11

do ocuk sell any 'passive' 3d monitors (i believe these are the ones that can 3D anything and not just stuff with Nvidia cards and 3D setup)?

Emphacy · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:13

Samsung Thread. They should be stocking these soon I imagine?

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:19

Emphacy said:
Samsung Thread. They should be stocking these soon I imagine?

£400 for 23"

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:27

so from what i have deducted from all of this, if you go over the monitors refresh rate you get screen tearing?
so why have a vsync option, why isnt it something that is just built into windows and forced on everyone, as it will automatically lock it to the highest usable FPS anyway :confused:

Surveyor · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:55

paradisiac said:
so from what i have deducted from all of this, if you go over the monitors refresh rate you get screen tearing?
so why have a vsync option, why isnt it something that is just built into windows and forced on everyone, as it will automatically lock it to the highest usable FPS anyway

Because that would be interfering with your Human Right to have more than 60fps.

And how would you test graphics cards unless you had a monitor with a massive refresh rate?

paradisiac · 23 Jul 2011 at 15:57

Surveyor said:
Because that would be interfering with your Human Right to have more than 60fps.

And how would you test graphics cards unless you had a monitor with a massive refresh rate?

test it for what though? this is what i dont understand, whats the point in having a card that can do 121hz+ if you will get tearing if you actually use it :confused: