Is this a fake?

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 10:54

Guys,

Just bought a Yate Loon off a popular auction site, I'm not sure as to its authenticity. Shouldn't it have a black badge with the specification on it? (like the one below it):

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:05

Is there anything under the black sticker? Did it come with any packaging?

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:06

There's nothing under the black sticky label, just came wrapped in bubblewrap! Did say on the ad though that its OEM etc.

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:23

It looks the same as the Nexus fans I bought a while ago. When mine come through I'll put them next to each other, then I should be able to tell if the plastic is an exact match.

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:33

Nice one mate, I have my suspicions though. Just been looking on google and the badge on most of them is on the other side. Also notice in my two pictures the arms are different thickness!

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=yate loon orange&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:33

LOL Just this minute mine have arrived and look exactly the same!

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:35

Same as the other Loons you have? (originals)

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:44

Well, the direction/airflow print on the side is the same. They feel the same, and the fan movement feels identical.

One slight difference between them (and mind that my other fans were Nexus, not Yate Loons, subtle difference) is that these have a hole all the way through the screw holes, whereas my Nexus ones were blocked in the middle.

The feel of the plastic, the colour, the movement all feels very familiar though. I think they're genuine tbh.

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:47

Cheers for checking that out. Yeah, perhaps they were sold off cheaper or something. I notice on your pic you had a go at looking under the sticker haha mine looks the same, can't stick it back on. Think I will tear it off!

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:53

I think they may have been taken from a built but unsold system.

Cancel what I said about the screw holes - I have had a thought about it and they are the same. It wasn't that they were blocked off, but that there was one long tube for the screw to go down, and so these didn't fit:-

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-001-AF&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=795

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 11:57

For a second I thought the fans smelt funny, but that turned out just to be a colleague LOL

Nymins · 16 Mar 2007 at 12:03

Anyone know what the quietest case fans are? I got an Akasa ultra quiet 80mm fan which is stated at 18dB which i thought was quiet. But when i installed it, it seemed quite loud compared to no case fans and just the psu and processor fan running. Its currently unplugged and just sitting here. Any recommandations for a very quiet fan?

L33 · 16 Mar 2007 at 12:16

They look different to me. Look at the 4 pieces of the frame between the middle (where black sticker is) and the outer frame. One is rounded, one is squared.

Example:

The blades of the original also appear more 'curved', and have a less rounded leading edge. They also appear not as 'shiny'?!

I'd never buy anything from the 'popular auction site' with the influx of fake memory / memory cards / CPUs etc etc that have been reported, its just not worth it.

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 12:44

LMAO Melbourne! So you testing them at work?

Nymins: Quietest are supposdly Yate Loons, Nexus, and Noctua S12's. Ambers are quite good I have some of those here.

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 12:45

L33 said:
They look different to me. Look at the 4 pieces of the frame between the middle (where black sticker is) and the outer frame. One is rounded, one is squared.

Example:

The blades of the original also appear more 'curved', and have a less rounded leading edge. They also appear not as 'shiny'?!

I'd never buy anything from the 'popular auction site' with the influx of fake memory / memory cards / CPUs etc etc that have been reported, its just not worth it.

The blades do look different I think your right, the arms seem a little different also.

Nymins · 16 Mar 2007 at 13:50

mishima said:
Nymins: Quietest are supposdly Yate Loons, Nexus, and Noctua S12's. Ambers are quite good I have some of those here.

Cool thanks. Although i looked up the "Orange Yate Loon D12SL-12" rated at 1350 RPM @ 12V, 47 CFM, 28dB. Its 10dB louder than my Akasa one but has a slower rpm. Will that mean that overall it is quieter?

EDIT: Btw this is the fan i have: http://www.akasa.co.uk/akasa_english/spec_page/fans/spec_ak_181bk_2b.htm

melbourne720 · 16 Mar 2007 at 13:57

mishima said:
LMAO Melbourne! So you testing them at work?

No, but that is a fine idea

It is Friday after all...

mishima said:
Nymins: Quietest are supposdly Yate Loons, Nexus, and Noctua S12's. Ambers are quite good I have some of those here.

Agreed. The trouble is most manufacturers lie about the rated cfm and noise levels of their cards. I'd add Sharkoon fans to the above list, I haven't used them myself though.

mishima · 16 Mar 2007 at 15:08

Nymins said:
Cool thanks. Although i looked up the "Orange Yate Loon D12SL-12" rated at 1350 RPM @ 12V, 47 CFM, 28dB. Its 10dB louder than my Akasa one but has a slower rpm. Will that mean that overall it is quieter?

EDIT: Btw this is the fan i have: http://www.akasa.co.uk/akasa_english/spec_page/fans/spec_ak_181bk_2b.htm

The Loons have better airflow according to those stats, Ambers are fairly quiet not too much to notice between the decibels - its the airflow though thats the decider!

oli collett · 16 Mar 2007 at 16:20

I've just replaced my old Papst 80mm fans with Nexus and the difference is remarkable, the tone of the Nexus fans is really deep and its so much better.

melbourne720 · 22 Mar 2007 at 09:54

Soon to be available at OCuk. The reply below from Slackworth is concerning OCuk getting them in:-

Slackworth said:
We are now in contact with Nexus. The products should be appearing soon hopefully.