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Who cares?
Even a religion such as Christianity can't agree on the basics and in theory it could be a significant tool.
But these are just CPUs so not a big deal.
 

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Intel Claims Xeon Cascade Lake-AP 56 Core CPU Up To 84% Faster Than AMD’s 64 Core EPYC Rome 7742 in Real-World HPC Benchmarks
https://wccftech.com/intel-xeon-cascade-lake-ap-84-percent-faster-amd-epyc-rome-7742-server-cpu/

Update: ServerTheHome's Patrick J Kennedy has found out that the GROMACS version being used by Intel is an outdated one that doesn't utilize the 256-bit wide AVX2 SIMD instruction set that is featured on Zen 2. The GROMACS 2019.3 version was used by Intel in what they are terming as real-world benchmarks, however, the latest version available is 2019.4 which adds support for Zen 2 based EPYC Rome chips like the EPYC 7742 which Intel tested their Xeon Platinum 9282 against. It just goes off to show that even Intel's 'Real-World' benchmarks aren't indicative of actual product performance and may lead to misleading statements against competitor products. And this won't be the first time Intel is using misleading benchmarks or statements to downplay the competition. They have termed several important performance metrics used by tech reviewers that are invalid and not indicative of actual product performance while their own performance metrics surely are.
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Orange Nexus said:
Two guys that should quit twitter. Trump and Shrout.
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Lol. Not been to his site in quite a few years now. He and the guy that worked for him seemed to have too much bias. These days there are so many websites and techtubers that they cannot afford to damage their rep like that for short term gains imo.
 

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TNA said:
Lol. Not been to his site in quite a few years now. He and the guy that worked for him seemed to have too much bias. These days there are so many websites and techtubers that they cannot afford to damage their rep like that for short term gains imo.
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It is no longer a matter of being BIAS, if may say so. Bias has an inclination to believing the a certain item is better. This is intentionally being DECEPTIVE knowing fully well the item they are marketing is inferior.
 

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"This form of deceptive ‘benchmarking’ and spurious claims has gotten so pervasive that SemiAccurate can no longer suggest it is not intentional."
https://semiaccurate.com/2019/11/05/intel-messaging-hits-a-new-low/

"Intel Performance Strategy Team Publishing Intentionally Misleading Benchmarks"
https://www.servethehome.com/intel-...blishing-intentionally-misleading-benchmarks/

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Just shows how much of a state Intel is in when they have to bring in a Spin Doctor like Ryan Shrout (a complete moron) to blatantly tilt and bias and fabricate BS to make their product look better against their opponents, they have been slaughtered in the press by the likes of STH, Phoronix etc...

They are losing credibility by the day it seems.
 

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SiDeards73 said:
Just shows how much of a state Intel is in when they have to bring in a Spin Doctor like Ryan Shrout (a complete moron) to blatantly tilt and bias and fabricate BS to make their product look better against their opponents, they have been slaughtered in the press by the likes of STH, Phoronix etc...

They are losing credibility by the day it seems.
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We knew it was bad before but when AMD come in with the current line up, it just poops on their entire business model...
 

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4K8KW10 said:
Why does intel always insist that it has the better products and we must stand in queue in front of its offerings? :confused:
There is something that we don't know about intel.

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Marketing mostly I'd imagine and AMD's bad history with previous CPUs. They've also been prevalent at paying companies to not buy AMD products so I'd imagine that the default response has been "buy Intel" as they've been everywhere.
 

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snips86x said:
Marketing mostly I'd imagine and AMD's bad history with previous CPUs. They've also been prevalent at paying companies to not buy AMD products so I'd imagine that the default response has been "buy Intel" as they've been everywhere.
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But AMD didn't have bad products. Athlon was good, Athlon 64 was very good, Phenom was not so good but still not bad, FX didn't receive software support/they were well ahead of their time/future proof, Ryzen is excellent.
So, it seems intel only lies and doesn't allow AMD to sell any CPUs.
 
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