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Is this processor OK?

bloodhunter

bloodhunter

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I love flight simulation but i fear my trusty i7 7700k is struggling to keep up with the current crop of slight sim add ons.
I have been looking at this one as a replacement along wit a suitable motherboard and ram of course.

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Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail

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That's not a route I would go down. MSFS24 seems to love the 3d cache of the Ryzen cpu's so I would go either a 9800x3d/9850x3d or if you can stretch to it, a 9950x3d for the extra cores which the game seems to love. A decent B850 motherboard and 32Gb DDR5 6000 C30 or even 64Gb DDR5 6000 C30 if you have loads of add ons. Am5 is the best gaming platform and we still have Ryzen 6 to come next year so there is still plenty of life in the platform.
 
Agreed AMD definitely the way to go, 9800x3d would be an obvious choice if gaming is the priority, maybe something with more cores if you do a lot of other stuff as well, but don't see a reason to even consider intel unless productivity is the focus.
 
bloodhunter said:
I love flight simulation but i fear my trusty i7 7700k is struggling to keep up with the current crop of slight sim add ons.
I have been looking at this one as a replacement along wit a suitable motherboard and ram of course.

www.overclockers.co.uk

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail

Order Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk www.overclockers.co.uk
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9950X [~£470] or 9950X3D [~£570]
 
tamzzy said:
yep. definitely get the 9800x3d/9850x3d
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There are a couple of Toms reviews with newer versions of Flight Simulator, the 3D cache advantage appears to largely vanish at 1440p or above in the later versions. I'm always a little leery of Toms numbers though as they don't always seem to match other reviewers but no one else seems to have done as extensive testing of Flight Simulator.

The 285K seems like a not great choice from several angles - without very expensive RAM and tuning it languished behind the faster 14th gen chips barely pulling away from the much cheaper 265K as I suspect it is heavily relying on the P cores and limited by the latency and thread scheduling complications of Arrow Lake.
 
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Rroff said:
There are a couple of Toms reviews with newer versions of Flight Simulator, the 3D cache advantage appears to largely vanish at 1440p or above in the later versions. I'm always a little leery of Toms numbers though as they don't always seem to match other reviewers but no one else seems to have done as extensive testing of Flight Simulator.
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oh yeah i really should use the latest data. i can't find the 1440p testing though...where'd you see those?

only found the 1080p which shows a clear win for the ryzen 9000x3d series

 
tamzzy said:
i can't find the 1440p testing though...where'd you see those?
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Their GPU guy did CPU tests but only with a limited number of processors:


If you scroll through there are 1440p and various different 2160p benchmarks - but I'd be a little leery without being able to match them up to other reviewers - while I'm not saying they are wrong as such but sometimes their testing methodology doesn't match up with what people will see in real use vs synthetic/canned benchmarks.

There is also another 2024 set of benchmarks in another article they did.

EDIT: Scanning through some YouTube benchmarks, but some are by legit flight simmers, the X3D chips generally gain 12-15% over the other CPUs when using DLSS Quality as well even at 4K.
 
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I would also recommend the ryzen 9800X3D. i recently swapped over from a overclocked 14900KS to a 9850X3D, after playing flight sims like msfs2024 and il sturmovik 2 within a VR environment the difference was like night and day. really smooth with all the ramdon micro stutters, frame rate drops gone. i did not expect the difference would be that great while being GPU bound. So i found the benchmarks like the ones above dont tell the whole story.

Wouldnt recommend an intel chip for flight sims at this time.
 
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