Is this true?

Oh yay, ******** infographics turned into video.

Anybody else notice that infographics are the most tenuously named ****e that The Guardian loves to publish? Here's something we're going to present as facts, despite the fact that it's actually only applicable to small demographic, but it supports our editorial stance, so **** it.

e: double whammy, more Latex'Dog garbage. Get me a beer.
 
The richest '20%' is going to include a heck of a lot of 'ordinary' people, surely? It's going to include most doctors, company directors, solicitors, etc etc? 20% is a huge number of people, it's about 12 million people. On that basis its hardly suprising and I don't really see how its 'unfair' either.

I wonder what you actually need to be counted part of that 20%?
 
[TW]Fox;25295197 said:
The richest '20%' is going to include a heck of a lot of 'ordinary' people, surely? It's going to include most doctors, company directors, solicitors, etc etc? 20% is a huge number of people, it's about 12 million people. On that basis its hardly suprising and I don't really see how its 'unfair' either.

I wonder what you actually need to be counted part of that 20%?
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You wouldn't need to earn much more than the median salary to be in the top 20%, maybe 40K a year?

I think I remember seeing that a salary of about 80K puts you in the top 1%.


The distribution is skewed strongly to the left, lots of low paid or unemployed people. Therefore earning a little more than the median quickly puts you in the top 20-30%.
 
Yes. It is true.

Social mobility is very low. If you are born into a poor family, you will very likely be poor for your whole life. The top few % of people hoard all the wealth, and this system is continued by strong commercial lobbying and the fact that politicians are from wealthy backgrounds. It is a sad state of affairs. Not to mention the threat to democracy that the extreme wealth found in the top few % poses.

(And no, I am not a bitter poor person - I am in the top 10%).
 
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If these 2 videos are true, why are we often held up as a beacon for other societies to look up to?
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We're held up to other societies using media propaganda to dance around all the bad stuff.

"Here is what capitalism can do for you" ignoring all the people in poverty and all the inequality and increasing wage divides and lack of social mobility.

When in truth, there is a reason most of the world hates us, I don't like our country I think we ruined a good portion of the world and continue to do so through plunder by trade.

I hate our grey area that only benefits the rich, we should be completely socialist or we should be completely anarchist, anything in between just ****s the vast majority of people.
 
It was posted by you, therefore it is false. Any fact that is posted by you immediately becomes false.

For the sake of humanity, please don't post about relativity.
 
Has GD always been the dumping ground for copy pasta news articles?

I miss Magnolia, and Kwerk, and Big T Williams
 
pitchfork said:
We're held up to other societies using media propaganda to dance around all the bad stuff.

"Here is what capitalism can do for you" ignoring all the people in poverty and all the inequality and increasing wage divides and lack of social mobility.
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So which non capitalist countries have better social mobility and less people in poverty?

I'll ignore the 'inequality' argument as a country where everyone earns nothing but have 'income equality' sounds far worse than a country with an average wage of 26k PA but where some people earn millions.
 
This post is everything that's wrong with everyone that's remotely left-wing and liberal, lets break it down.

pitchfork said:
We're held up to other societies using media propaganda to dance around all the bad stuff.

"Here is what capitalism can do for you" ignoring all the people in poverty and all the inequality and increasing wage divides and lack of social mobility.
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relative poverty, every single person in this country has the help and ability to be richer then the poorest in any 3rd world country. We don't have the slums of Brazil, India or parts of China. People like you bitch and moan about poverty but we have it so good in this country. 99% of the time the ones that say they're in poverty can help themselves out of it and are either left-wing poster monkeys that get paraded out for the The Guardian or the BBC, or just completely brainless on how to pull themselves together.

When in truth, there is a reason most of the world hates us, I don't like our country I think we ruined a good portion of the world and continue to do so through plunder by trade.
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Like it or not, the reason most of the world hates us (as in all Westerners) is pure jealously, they are also massive hypocrites. They chant "Death to America" out on the streets but the first chance they get behind closed doors they listen to western music, watch western movies and use western products.

I hate our grey area that only benefits the rich, we should be completely socialist or we should be completely anarchist, anything in between just ****s the vast majority of people.
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Ah the Russall Brand approach to politics, which means you're no better then a 1st year uni student with an extraordinary narrow view of the world and can be dismissed just as easily.
 
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So which non capitalist countries have better social mobility and less people in poverty?

I'll ignore the 'inequality' argument as a country where everyone earns nothing but have 'income equality' sounds far worse than a country with an average wage of 26k PA but where some people earn millions.
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Please, the only reason non capitalist countries failed is because the capitalist countries committed atrocities under black flag operations to upset the systems.

I mean god forbid anyone should think there's a viable alternative.
 
pitchfork said:
Please, the only reason non capitalist countries failed is because the capitalist countries committed atrocities under black flag operations to upset the systems.

I mean god forbid anyone should think there's a viable alternative.
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I'd like to see a viable alternative first. socialist or anarchist are not it, even technocracy which sounds pretty good to me doesn't work.

Oh and Black Flag?? *Face plam*
 
[TW]Fox;25295197 said:
The richest '20%' is going to include a heck of a lot of 'ordinary' people, surely? It's going to include most doctors, company directors, solicitors, etc etc? 20% is a huge number of people, it's about 12 million people. On that basis its hardly suprising and I don't really see how its 'unfair' either.

I wonder what you actually need to be counted part of that 20%?
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Generally it is consultants and GPs who earn the big bucks (i.e. £70k+). Most 'regular' hospital doctors are only £30-40k-ish.
 
pitchfork said:
Please, the only reason non capitalist countries failed is because the capitalist countries committed atrocities under black flag operations to upset the systems.

I mean god forbid anyone should think there's a viable alternative.
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Oh dear. Do you happen to own an "Anonymous" Guy Fawkes mask?
 
pitchfork said:
Please, the only reason non capitalist countries failed is because the capitalist countries committed atrocities under black flag operations to upset the systems.

I mean god forbid anyone should think there's a viable alternative.
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Even if that was true, systems don't fall simply for one reason. The reality is much more complex than that.
 
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