Is Windows 10 built in antivirus good enough?

Having looked into this myself it would appear whilst windows defender is good, it isn't quite able to offer the same protection as a full AV package.

If you are careful then windows defender is just fine but for peace of mind I run Avast as well.
 
Can't see any issue running Windows defender along with Avast? Defender is hardly a full blown AV package and I don't notice any slow down.
 
Have often wondered whether I should just disable defender. Can't defer the updates for it mind through Windows update so I leave it running.

Might look into it further but always preferred Avast running. Saved my bacon a few times shall we say :)
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Windows defender disable itself anyway if you have another AV installed? At least that's how it is from what I've seen at work.
 
Avast have been stopping nasties well before defender was even thought about.

Historically M$ have been late to react to vulnerabilities whereas Avast are on the ball.
 
Not fond of Avast but that's my opinion. I would say to an experienced competant user having Defender coupled with a malware app like malwarebytes is good enough unless you want to enter the paid for services that give you some extras thrown in due to the recent build up in crypto variants over the past few years.
 
Th0nt said:
Not fond of Avast but that's my opinion. I would say to an experienced competant user having Defender coupled with a malware app like malwarebytes is good enough unless you want to enter the paid for services that give you some extras thrown in due to the recent build up in crypto variants over the past few years.
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Out of interest why don't you like Avast and what do you use?
 
Philtor said:
Out of interest why don't you like Avast and what do you use?
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I have used a lot of the typical brands over the years, test them on not only my family equipment but also I was a reseller for ESET and Bitdefender some 12 years ago when I was a technician. I also get free licenses for example lately I switched broadband provider and they give you a years free Norton for three machines - so they will get deployed at some point, chiefly for me to keep on top of their features and help navigate when a customer has it installed on a machine if for example they have issues. If you include the VM installations then the numbers increase further. Lately I work for an organisation that supports nearly 200 end users and we have moved from a mix match of legacy licenses (Mcafee, Trend Micro) now back to all under the ESET license at least for the time being.

As to why I don't like Avast? Well I have had so many installations generally from customers laptops where this has been the culprit, to the 'Free' aspect where they not only pester you with adverts but whether you like it or not are using your information to suit their needs. When they bought AVG was around the time I stopped praising the free offerings.
 
Th0nt said:
I have used a lot of the typical brands over the years, test them on not only my family equipment but also I was a reseller for ESET and Bitdefender some 12 years ago when I was a technician. I also get free licenses for example lately I switched broadband provider and they give you a years free Norton for three machines - so they will get deployed at some point, chiefly for me to keep on top of their features and help navigate when a customer has it installed on a machine if for example they have issues. If you include the VM installations then the numbers increase further. Lately I work for an organisation that supports nearly 200 end users and we have moved from a mix match of legacy licenses (Mcafee, Trend Micro) now back to all under the ESET license at least for the time being.

As to why I don't like Avast? Well I have had so many installations generally from customers laptops where this has been the culprit, to the 'Free' aspect where they not only pester you with adverts but whether you like it or not are using your information to suit their needs. When they bought AVG was around the time I stopped praising the free offerings.
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avast dpes push a lot of ads

every year i try a new AV
Eset/Bitdefender have always been the best for me, & i always use interactive mode. so every app asks for firewall permissions
 
Windows defender is actually very good. I work for a Lastline - an Advanced Threat Protection company (Sandboxing - automated malware analysis) and I can tell you that Windows Defenders updates are *fast*, they often detect things that are VERY new and lots of other AVs miss. I run an Lastline sensor on my network and only Windows Defender on my endpoints and nothing else is needed.
 
Moley said:
Windows defender is actually very good. I work for a Lastline - an Advanced Threat Protection company (Sandboxing - automated malware analysis) and I can tell you that Windows Defenders updates are *fast*, they often detect things that are VERY new and lots of other AVs miss. I run an Lastline sensor on my network and only Windows Defender on my endpoints and nothing else is needed.
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i think the biggest problem is not the speed but the detection rate of older stuff & new various types of attacks like ransomware. phishing etc defender does not protect against this.

for a Novice user Eset/Bitdefender can be lot more safe. specially with the blocking off known malware sites
 
stockhausen said:
Other than the fact that any Anti-Virus program has a dramatic impact on system performance, why not?
As it happens I never would recommend this anyhow but I am just curious.
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howiepoohs said:
They can interfere with each other and cause false positives, fight each other and cause system slowdowns amongst other things.
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smogsy said:
i think the biggest problem is not the speed but the detection rate of older stuff & new various types of attacks like ransomware. phishing etc defender does not protect against this.
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By far the easiest way to protect against ransomware and phishing is not to open unsolicited emails or attachments.
 
Moley said:
By far the easiest way to protect against ransomware and phishing is not to open unsolicited emails or attachments.
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you can't say that to the average joe though, this where defender is lackluster. defender needs a browser extension to stop dodgy sites from loading and mail protection then maybe it would be ok for average joe
 
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