Is your LCD Vista ready? Probably not...
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Lanz said:
Hi,
To be honest, I don't give a damn about the HDCP as I don't use my LCD monitor exclusively for movies. My other home cinema LCD TV is for that purpose.
At the end, I think that they are diverting the technology in such way that it's simply disgusting. Not only that you have to change the monitor only, but video card, operating system and who knows what at the end. Come on ... give me a break.
Here in the UK even HDTV is still not in mass production
and who knows when everything (including HDCP) will start to actually happen in real sense.Ouch ... just find on the list that my NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 is HDCP. Oh well
Lanz said:
I think this to. As mentioned in a previous thread my family have a 50" DLP tv that can show a HD picture but does not support HDCP. Therefore we cannot watch HDTV. I am now thinking about a way to remove HDCP which I should not have to do. I have never broken the law. Ok, so when I used P2P software I did not know it was illegal (honest) but I now buy all my CDs. I have never downloaded a TV program, or taken one from the TV so why should I not watch HDTV because Hollywood think I will? It just makes me mad and makes illegal activity so much more attractive. What makes it even worse is the fact I cannot do anything about it. Unless HDCP is protested against nationally HDCP will survive and even if we did protest nothing would happen
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hopefully a tool such as AnyDVD will come around to bypass the limitation on winvista. Surly its software that decides if the image should be decoded at full res or not, and if it is, should be able to be worked round.
Its quite sad when illegal movies end up being easier to watch than their legal counterparts.
Btw, p2p software itself is not illegal. a lot of companies use it for legal file distrubution. Even downloading copyright material is _not_ illegal, its the sharing to others or distribution that is.
Btw, p2p software itself is not illegal. a lot of companies use it for legal file distrubution. Even downloading copyright material is _not_ illegal, its the sharing to others or distribution that is.
HDCP encrypts the signal which leaves the DVD player then the display device has to decrypt that signal in order for it to appear on screen. No software solution is gonna work around this as it will only encrypt/decrypt if it detects the HDCP encryption keys which only Intel/Silicon Image know.
Thats not to say that someone somewhere will create another device to plug in between the DVD source & display to do the same function but will still be hard as the HDCP can easily be setup to only allow an internal signal from within and not via an external box. For this to happen though they will need to first crack the encryption scheme then second work out how to solder a mod into a HDCP display. Not sure how many people want such warranty invalidating tinkering on their pride & joy £2-3K+ TV!
@ this stage looks as though HDCP has everyone by the balls!
However, almost all TFTs/CRTs will be Vista ready just not HDCP + Vista ready!
Thats not to say that someone somewhere will create another device to plug in between the DVD source & display to do the same function but will still be hard as the HDCP can easily be setup to only allow an internal signal from within and not via an external box. For this to happen though they will need to first crack the encryption scheme then second work out how to solder a mod into a HDCP display. Not sure how many people want such warranty invalidating tinkering on their pride & joy £2-3K+ TV!
@ this stage looks as though HDCP has everyone by the balls!
However, almost all TFTs/CRTs will be Vista ready just not HDCP + Vista ready!
I think the bottom line will be, hardly anyone will watch `legal` HD DVDs on their PCs, it'll be strictly a standalone dvd player thing. Where as your PC will still be used to watch illegal stuff, decoded HD stuff in Divx/Xvid.
People like security on their PCs, but not enforced protections, people will speak with their wallets, people wont upgrade to vista, and the games that say they'll be Vista only, like Halo2, will realise they aren't gonna sell many copies. This might be ok for microsoft titles, as they can afford to make a loss, but for the likes of EA... No way will they produce Vista only games.
People like security on their PCs, but not enforced protections, people will speak with their wallets, people wont upgrade to vista, and the games that say they'll be Vista only, like Halo2, will realise they aren't gonna sell many copies. This might be ok for microsoft titles, as they can afford to make a loss, but for the likes of EA... No way will they produce Vista only games.
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all speculation tbh. my opinion many people will upgrade, well i will, i love technology lol and so does my wallet.
janesssssy said:
Well ... don't you think that's their intention to ? They simply like to make love with your wallet. Think about it. Can you imagine the poor guys who splashed at least £1000 for their SLI or Crossfire enabled gaming machines and now they simply can trash it out as, of course, it's not HDCP enabled. And let's talk about the invention in the technology and some future proof planning which will protect us, consumers. With this move they simply admitted, liked or not, they they are unable to take a strong stand against the piracy. And what's the solution ? Let's replace EVERYTHING in your PC so that it's now, oh dear, anti-piracy future proof. How clever and inventive is that
And what's even worst, we are not talking here about some exited technology invention. We are talking about the "High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection" rip off of the decade ... and everyone is invited (MS, Intel, GPU manufactures, LCD manufactures).Not sure how old are you. If you respect any pound you earn and at the same time have "real" life obligations (wife, kids, living expenses ... etc) you would be rather interested to know if such move is protecting your purchasing ethics, as the consumer, and if you would rather prefer to spend that money somewhere else.
Great HDCP fiasco is happening. It's happening right now and we are all deceived.
Sorry guys, nowadays "HDCP" it's the magic trigger for my emotional rage.
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the dell 2405WFP monitor is it HD ready?
im thinking buying new monitor.
im thinking buying new monitor.
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TBH I dont even care if my LCD support or not, after seeing all the requirements + craps about vista, I wont even upgrade to it any time soon 
hell, im sticking with my moviezzzz (u guys know what im talking about )
hell, im sticking with my moviezzzz (u guys know what im talking about )I was thinking yesterday. HDCP Resistance is futile. HDCP will happen anyway and we all know it. It's really up to you people, if and why, how and when you will resist. But I decided already. I decided to revive my cinema experience in proper way. I will actually go and *visit* cinemas. Yes, you heard it right. And if I have to, I will spend all that upgrade money just on the cinema tickets and enjoy proper cinema experience. I will respect the author and pay the fee, enjoy the movie on 1000" proper screen, have a bit of social and most importantly experience would be much better than any full-blown HDTV.
And what's that thing about the perfect home cinema picture quality anyway? Who needs that ? For me, huge leap for the home cinema was the actual transition to 16:9 format. It's good and you are more "involved" in the scene. Even now, when I play DVD I can't complain about the picture. It's *enjoyable*. And isn't more important what that movie picture is actually trying to tell us, rather how ? Somehow, I like the imperfections of the movie picture (as in proper cinema). If the movie is too much "digital", it would drive my attention away and it would be just one lifeless motion in my eyes.
Take care
And what's that thing about the perfect home cinema picture quality anyway? Who needs that ? For me, huge leap for the home cinema was the actual transition to 16:9 format. It's good and you are more "involved" in the scene. Even now, when I play DVD I can't complain about the picture. It's *enjoyable*. And isn't more important what that movie picture is actually trying to tell us, rather how ? Somehow, I like the imperfections of the movie picture (as in proper cinema). If the movie is too much "digital", it would drive my attention away and it would be just one lifeless motion in my eyes.
Take care
Don't know about the rest of you but watching movies on my PC is not a major thing for me.
All LCDs (and CRTs for that matter) are Vista ready... it's only the issue of playing HD DVDs that's of any 'concern' here and that's only if you want to do it from your PC.
Personally, unless you have a large (i.e. >32") output device (with suitable resolution) connected to your PC then I don't see any advantage. If you are the type of person who wants to specifically watch HD DVDs then I would suspect that you will get or will already have suitable stand alone equipment and wouldn't be relying on your PC anyway. HD is an option not a format change, at least for a good while yet, you'll still get the SD option.
All LCDs (and CRTs for that matter) are Vista ready... it's only the issue of playing HD DVDs that's of any 'concern' here and that's only if you want to do it from your PC.
Personally, unless you have a large (i.e. >32") output device (with suitable resolution) connected to your PC then I don't see any advantage. If you are the type of person who wants to specifically watch HD DVDs then I would suspect that you will get or will already have suitable stand alone equipment and wouldn't be relying on your PC anyway. HD is an option not a format change, at least for a good while yet, you'll still get the SD option.