ISP spying

drak3 · 26 Apr 2008 at 00:59

You try to prevent them? If yes, how?

drak3 · 26 Apr 2008 at 11:27

Exibit said:
What makes you think that your ISP is watching you ??

Have they contacted you about your downloads or are you just worried in case they are

Tools I could use to encrypt everything. Still, the goverment can force me to hand out the decryption keys (by law) but still this is extreme.

No contact, but I prefer to use my connection in privacy. You never know.

drak3 · 27 Apr 2008 at 12:30

You are telling me you can inspect the payload of SSL encypted packets? Apart from knowing were it comes from and were it is going to?

Breaking the encryption you are breaking the law.

drak3 · 27 Apr 2008 at 21:46

SSL runs at the application layer, so the destination and source are by definition outside of the equation. I asked if you inspect the payload, or if you are just "guessing" from the source what it might be.

drak3 · 28 Apr 2008 at 01:47

bigredshark said:
SSL is used for very few things (secure web pages and SSL VPN, legitimately thats about all). If you're putting through 6mbps of SSL traffic then it's difficult to justify as legitimate, we'll listen because we deal with business but if it was consumer ADSL we wouldn't be so accomodating.

So no payload inspection, however if we wanted to try we have copies of all the capture files going back a few months.

Fair enough. Of course you keep copies since it is required by law (UK at least).

A well encrypted payload will keep a cluster fully loaded for a few weeks, so I guess is up to the "importance" of the payload.

drak3 · 28 Apr 2008 at 12:46

Aekeron said:
It's hardly 'evil' of a company to contact high bandwidth users personally and ask them why they're doing it, rather than just randomly enforcing bandwidth limits, STMs or FUPs.

If you talk 24/7 over the phone no one will ever call you and ask why. It is very simple, since BT will make a fortune out of you and you hardly stress the network. With xDSL however, is like having 20 calls at the same time which you pay a flat rate for.

The problem with ISPs is that their cheapo hardware and links are overloaded heavy. THe business customers (paying thousands of pounds) keep calling in crying about congestion on the network and the tech people shape home users to ease the load.

It's all about marketing double digit connection capacities (not speed, as they wrongly advertise. speed goes with delay) and then hiding behind 6pt character fair usage policies.