ISPs to be ordered to boot illegal downloaders

Sic · 12 Feb 2008 at 09:21

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7240234.stm

anyone reckon this will get through? I've always seen policing of content people access on the web as a major infringement of privacy. Personally, I don't see it happening but I'm not particularly well-versed on the legal ins and outs

Sic · 12 Feb 2008 at 09:36

I figured browsing over SSH would be the obvious answer. Slower, but it'll stop you getting hanged for stuff like this

Sic · 12 Feb 2008 at 12:40

Vixen said:
I really couldn't care less. I don't download anything illegally and, tbh, it bugs me that a lot of people think it's ok to do so just because something hasn't been shown in this country yet.

what makes you think it's not ok, though? Why shouldn't people be able to watch something that's already been aired in a foreign country?

I've always been of the opinion that if digital arts were reasonably priced, then less people would pirate material. Yes, you'll always have some who won't buy, but I believe them to be in the minority. Why should people pay £16 for a CD that probably cost about £1 to make once production has run? Madness

Sic · 12 Feb 2008 at 12:51

peetee said:
indeed, altho lets face it cds aint really £16 nowadays, I wont pay £8 for an album cos i know most of the songs will be pants, not really a hardcore music fan now anydays really.
When i was much more into it I just downloaded CDs and then I would go to see the band play, they get more money from me paying for a gig ticket than they do a CD right?
I get more varied&richer experience, band gets more money. money grabbing record label gets ...

it depends what sort of music you're into and how difficult the CD is to find. I know it's not a great example of shrewd consumerism, but I paid £16 for Deftones - Around the Fur at a high street music retailer. In all honesty, I wouldn't have a problem with paying something like £3 for an album download because I only care about the music - I couldn't give 2 about the case!

I'm with you, though. If I see a band I like is touring and I've got the cash, I'd rather go and see them and buy a tshirt if they're good (unless they charge £25 for it - yes you, Jared Leto!!!) because they make more off ticket sales anyway.

The thing that really gets on my nerves is that I bet that a lot of the money you pay for a CD goes towards crap like making music videos. I HATE music videos - what is the point?!

Sic · 12 Feb 2008 at 12:59

Lysander said:
I'd turn that round and say "why should they?" Why this idea of "I can't find it anywhere so it's my right to pirate it"?

Have some patience. Wait till it's legally available on DVDs or similar. Or import it when it's released over there. Or is that too much to ask? For some it clearly is.

yes, it is too much to ask. There's no reason to not world-wide release things (logically, of course - I'm sure there's tonnes of red-tape to get through for international releases) so if people want to watch something that's been aired in a foreign country and it's available, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed.

Lysander said:
Yes there's pressing, but then there's advertising, videoclips, paying the distributors, artists, producers....

Good God, there's more to releasing a CD than pressing the damn thing.

obviously, I was exaggerating. I didn't use a smiley, sorry :/

see my previous post on a plain download. I only care about the music, and I should be given that option. I don't care about the cover, videos, advertising and distributors are redundant for downloads. as it stands, I'm forced to buy a bunch of crap that just goes in a box once the CD's on my iPod. Lucky me for being a music fan.

stoofa said:
All this "right of privacy" rubbish.
Why don't most of you just admit it.
You aren't fighting for your "right to privacy" you are fighting for your "right to pirate".

ISP's will not lose loads of customers over this.
Even if everyone who downloads illegal content was kicked from their ISP, there are only so many ISP's they can mvoe to and get kicked from.
Eventually they will run out of ISP's - at which point they will either have to settle down and not download illegal or face not having a single ISP that would actually offer them a connection.

Lets hope this one gets through.
The already busy Internet lines could be a lot quieter once a few people have been kicked off.

yes, won't that be awesome when people taking a stand against the ridiculous price of digital media get kicked off the internet because of pressure from people who supply that media.