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I've just been accepted to iStockphoto as a contributor and was wondering if anyone here was too and if you had any tips, advice or experience to share.

I submitted photos that I'd taken generally last year but it would be interesting to shoot with stock photography in the back of my mind in the future. What's your must successful upload or what do you tend to shoot/use for it?
 
I have a variety of microstock accounts that earn me beer money and have paid for lenses. I tend not to bother with istockphoto too much because the upload process is a real pain and they treated their contributors like crap in the last year.

Your best bet with MS is to get as many accounts with the major agencies as possible because once you have edited your photo and keyworded it all it takes seconds to upload else where. Fotolia, shutterstock and dreamstime all do well for me, 123rf has sluggish sales but it is very easy to use. Different websites tend to do well at different types of photos, so some that never see sales in one places will get hundred at others.

Shutterstock is my fav At the moment. Sadly I avoided shutterstock like the plague because I didn't like the idea of selling photos for 25c and hated the subscription model. But over the last 5 years every agency uses e subscription model now. At shutterstock sales are far more frequent and I make far more money there than elsewhere. Also I get lots of higher value special sales at $30-50 a pop which very nice.


Saying that istockphoto has higher prices and so if you find that your photos work well there then it can make a lot of money, more so if you exclusive but in general this is a bad idea. I suggest try all major agencies for a year, once you have an idea of what sales, where, how much each agency is paying you our then you could consider going istock exclusive but for most people it is never worth it.


It is hard to say what photos sell well. Th obvious ones involve blond models in an office working at a computer or some other corporate meeting etc. boring as whelk and I don't touch that, I mostly shoot what I find interesting and I want to do == nature. This equates to not very good sales. But I don't want to shoot stuff just to make sales, MS doesn't pay enough to make that worth while.

One annoying thing you will find is some photos will sell well others not, and it is not obvious why. Some of my best sellers are a very boring scene/object, shot with no effort, hand held, with a high ISO, 5second edit, something anyone could replicate better, and yet they sells really well making hundre and hundreds of dollars. Other photo that I think are more unique, or much more interesting, that required far more work, that only professionals could replicate with time and dedication don't sell at all. My best photos get basically no sales, it is not what stock wants. So I basically don't upload them anymore, and will sale these as framed prints for a few hundred each (currently in process of setting up a website, spent weekend learning wordpress).

Tbh, the glory days of MS have ended. 5-7 years a go it was easy to make a grand a month throwing up whatever photos you took with bad key wording, poor processing and mundane subjects. Now a days you need to provide 10 the. Umber of photos, all of perfect quality and get a tenth of the sales. It really feels like it is 100x worse that when I started.
 
Thanks DP, really useful. Will look into the other sites as well.

To start with the end of your post, I certainly don't mean to make a lot and the photos I uploaded as a sample were holiday snaps really. Like you say, a few free pints is still a few free pints! Just something to play with of an evening really.

How stringent are the others on contributors and considering the 3 were approved for iStock am I likely to get approved for the others or not? FYI these were edits of the following:

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And I think this one but can't actually remember!

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It is hard to day how the others compare because it is highly variable.
You probably find fotolia and shutterstock harder. Dreamstime I don't think has a submission test, 123rf doesn't.

Shutterstock and dreams time accept more photos than fotolia and istock.


Regardless of money I quite enjoyed my ms experience and I learned a lot, especial self-critique of technical quality.
 
Need any help with WP D.P. (!) and I'll help out ;)

Thanks, I think I am getting there. I am actually a programmer by trade but never touch any web stuff except a little JavaScript now and then so I am actually finding it easier hacking the JS of a gallery than clicking through menus on Wordpress! I have a quick test site up, next step will be to pay for a proper host and do things for real.
 
I've been an istock contributor for just over 2 years now and its gone downhill quickly over the last 12 months as DP says. They treat contributors as cattle and frequently refer to contributors images as their own, which isn't exactly true, nor morally right.

Shutterstock is far superior and you get access to some rather useful stats that can be exported in various ways also. I've made more money through shutter stock in 1 year than I have with istock in over 2 years. Getty itself is the best money maker for photos for casual non pro's but you don't apply, instead they invite you and sell your photos on your behalf, with you netting just 20% of the sale price. Doesn't sound like much, but getting $30 for the average sale on getty is far better than getting $0.25 per sale on shutterstock lol.

The entry exam for istock is just a gimmick to make you feel proud that you are at the required "level" for stock photography, which is clinical in approach instead of arty, which isn't ideal for most other types of photography. The first two images out of the 3 couldn't even be used for microstock anyway as I doubt you own property releases for the buildings in your photo, making them an editorial licence only, which will never sell. Not sure how shutterstock would view the third image as they are harsh with their critique, but its worth a go!
 
Thanks James, I did wonder about the first two re: location image rights. Do you know the general rules with regards to buildings? ie Do they have to be entirely visible/identifiable or taken on private property? For example, do parts of buildings 'count'?

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As far as I'm aware they all still require releases. The easiest avenue into micro stock is taking photos of themed objects. I've sold a rose picture on shutterstock that is isolated on a white background 186 times and counting. That's under the theme of love. Christmas and new year themed hoots are what you should be looking at now, the valentines day and Easter. Easier to earn money if you follow the seasonal trends.
 
James J is a bit wrong here but it does vary by agency. In general you don't need any property release for building photographed from public land. I have dozens and dozens of buildings being sold on MS, anything from modern skyscrapers to classic old buildings. The fact that istock accepted the first 2 photos means that they will already have accepted them for selling. I have have over a done of the Eiffel Tower for sell and In General architecture is my biggest selling genre.

Shutterstockk seem pickier about buildings than other agencies but dream times, Fotoliia, 123rf, bigstockphoto, crestock, Alamy etc. have no issues selling photos of buildings.

There are just a few exceptions, e.g. The Eiffel Tower at night cannot be sold if it show the lights because the lighting is copyright protected. You could photograph it at night in a power up.

If the building is public then there is certainly no issue, most famous older buildings are public. Also if you photograph details of buildings then no release is needed.
 
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Being a public building though is extremely hard to prove and shutterstock will often just decline it based on that. It's not wrong, it's just being generalised.
 
Being a public building though is extremely hard to prove and shutterstock will often just decline it based on that. It's not wrong, it's just being generalised.

As I said shutterstock R&D to simply decline, which is my biggest beef with them, I could get many more sales there if they actually bothered to decide if a building was public or photographed from public. None of the other agencies have any issue at all because there is no legal issue. And you can get buildings accepted at shutterstock, it just involves repeatedly submitting the photo with a note to the reviewers stating it is public or from public land- eventually one of them no what they are doing and accepts it.
 
As I said shutterstock R&D to simply decline, which is my biggest beef with them, I could get many more sales there if they actually bothered to decide if a building was public or photographed from public. None of the other agencies have any issue at all because there is no legal issue. And you can get buildings accepted at shutterstock, it just involves repeatedly submitting the photo with a note to the reviewers stating it is public or from public land- eventually one of them no what they are doing and accepts it.

True, but sadly that's the agency you need to go with if you want to earn cash now as even the views on I stock have declined massively over the last year. I probably play it far safer than you do with submissions as I rarely take shots of buildings anyway.
 
True, but sadly that's the agency you need to go with if you want to earn cash now as even the views on I stock have declined massively over the last year. I probably play it far safer than you do with submissions as I rarely take shots of buildings anyway.

Depending on what you shoot you might find that Fotolia gives better sales than shutterstock. In general Fotolia have stricter reviews but they do allow most building photos without question. Due to the stricter reviews you tend to get a much smaller portfolio but good sales (not SS good, but better than other sites) and the sales are $3-8 instead of the 0.25c at shutterstock.
 
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