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ITC judge rules Nvidia infringes Samsung patents

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An ITC administrative law judge (ALJ) has ruled Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) infringes three Samsung (OTC:SSNLF) patents. The case will now go before the full commission.

The news comes eight days after the full ITC commission upheld an ALJ's ruling declaring Samsung and Qualcomm didn't infringe two Nvidia patents, and that a third patent (though infringed) is invalid. Samsung had countersued Nvidia before the ITC, and both companies are suing each other in Virginia.
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http://seekingalpha.com/news/3001126-itc-judge-rules-nvidia-infringes-samsung-patents
 
Doubt it means anything to us. They'll either appeal and keep it in the courts forever, or it'll just be a fine - and with the money nVidia has that's no bother really.
 
well karma is a peach.
but nvidia sure do have some lawers to fire, not only made nvidia look like patent trolls, this might even backfire on them.
 
It goes to the full panel and be caught up in legal shenanigans for years most likely, probably long enough for the patents to expire given their age.

I doubt we will see any US import bans given that IBM and Nvidia are building the US governments next range of supercomputers. If the ITC ban them, It'll likely get vetoed much like what happened to Apple.
 
layte said:
It goes to the full panel and be caught up in legal shenanigans for years most likely, probably long enough for the patents to expire given their age.

I doubt we will see any US import bans given that IBM and Nvidia are building the US governments next range of supercomputers. If the ITC ban them, It'll likely get vetoed much like what happened to Apple.
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For Samsung that wasn't the point, Nvidia tried to sue Samsung and lost but Samsung counter sued and while they haven't won that outright yet its not going Nvidia's way.

Frankly Nvidia probably thought they could bully Samsung into settling, i'm glad they are made of sterner stuff.

I doubt Samsung are interested in stopping Nvidia, but it looks like they will see it through right to the end if only to give Nvidia a bloody nose.

"We don't respond well to threats, Nvidia, we will muller you at your own game!" :D

Always a bigger fish.
 
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The cynic in me see's Samsung helping out AMD where possible just to stick 2 fingers up at Nvidia, in reality though this is funny given the recent announcement of Samsung and AMD fabbing chips together
 
Samsung deciding to throw away hundreds of millions on lawyer fees to help out another company.... nope.

Nvidia sued Samsung, Samsung counter sued Nvidia, it's that simple. As for someone suggesting the lawyers should be fired for making Nvidia 'look' like patent trolls, ha. You can't pick what are completely basic ideas everyone has had and aren't remotely unique, several of which you didn't actually come up with and start a bunch of lawsuits because you think people should give you money. This was patent trolling and why Nvidia did it I don't know. I mean I know exactly what their end game was, I don't know why they thought they could win.

They weren't bullying Samsung, they were using the fact that they were willing to go to court against a behemoth such as Samsung to scare other smaller companies into conceding straight away. So you go after lets say 10 smaller companies making chips with not much cash on hand or even companies in the investment stage with a good product but no profits at all yet but they all know your case is a joke and can't win so they figure it won't cost much to see it through the first stage and get it thrown out. If Nvidia then bring a similar lawsuit against Samsung with the implied intention they are willing to throw hundreds of mils in lawyer fees, Nvidia hopes the 10 smaller companies **** their pants and just sign licensing deals for gpus.

The problem is the case was so baseless the smaller companies didn't give in, Samsung won, Nvidia opened themselves up to some revenge lawsuits from Samsung and they have a bunch of lawyer fees and nothing to show for it, maybe in the future heavy heavy lawyer fees.

The dumbest thing is what they chose to sue over, the most general ideas, most of which came from existing research and ideas and none of which literally anyone making a GPU would make themselves. Oh really, make a specific accelerated version of it on an external card, gpus from Nvidia are the first time that ever happened. Add more 'cores' to it to get more performance, again no where in the computing world had this ever happened before Nvidia did it with a GPU. /s
 
SiDeards73 said:
The cynic in me see's Samsung helping out AMD where possible just to stick 2 fingers up at Nvidia, in reality though this is funny given the recent announcement of Samsung and AMD fabbing chips together
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Big business tends to be far more pragmatic than that. Samsung will work with Nvidia if and when the profits dictate they should.

This is quite simply Nvidia patent trolling and it backfired massively.
 
drunkenmaster said:
The dumbest thing is what they chose to sue over, the most general ideas, most of which came from existing research and ideas and none of which literally anyone making a GPU would make themselves. Oh really, make a specific accelerated version of it on an external card, gpus from Nvidia are the first time that ever happened. Add more 'cores' to it to get more performance, again no where in the computing world had this ever happened before Nvidia did it with a GPU. /s
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Lol, is funny. Much of those ideas and research came out of computing advancements from IBM and Xerox back in the late 70's and 80's.

On my trip to Cern back in January I saw an 80 core ibm processor that was used in the 80's. Of course it was more a case of 80 individual cores on one block, but still the start of multicore processing.
 
So funny to see this when the usual suspects were defending NV to the death and predicting a quick decisive victory for their team (based on nothing but fanboyism ofc) and home by Christmas.

All of a sudden everyone was a lawyer. Where'd they all go I wonder?
 
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So funny to see this when the usual suspects were defending NV to the death and predicting a quick decisive victory for their team (based on nothing but fanboyism ofc) and home by Christmas.

All of a sudden everyone was a lawyer. Where'd they all go I wonder?
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Not sure where the others went but it pretty much played out how DM, me and others said it would. It was clear even to amateurs in the 3D world that the patents wouldn't held up.

I love NVs PR which has turned it into just 3 patents to try and reduce the negative spin on this. When this started it was seven patents if I recall. Only NV PR could turn “Seven infringed patents” into 1 invalid patent and 2 did not infringe. No mention of the 4 they had to withdraw.
 
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Orangey said:
So funny to see this when the usual suspects were defending NV to the death and predicting a quick decisive victory for their team (based on nothing but fanboyism ofc) and home by Christmas.

All of a sudden everyone was a lawyer. Where'd they all go I wonder?
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+1, exactly my thoughts :)

I'm happy that justice has been served, and look forward to the long and fruitful relationship between AMD and Samsung.
 
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