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Quick (ish) question.

Does anybody here have a job that involves being ITIL Qualified, preferably at at least a practitioner level?

The reason I ask is that in my previous job I sorted out the processes involved in running the ICT. However I did it on a system based on the ITIL. This worked very well and I enjoyed the challenge of sorting out an inefficient, reactive helpdesk into a proactive, processed helpdesk by the time I left.

Now it looks like my new job will be evolving along the same lines. This is good as the heavy technical stuff kind of bores me (unless it is UNIX as I like that). I should be getting ITIL training at some point in the near future.

The questions are then:

How hard are the ITIL exams?
What ITIL Service Management jobs are there and what do they pay?
I take it Prince2 is recommended as they seem to go hand-in-hand?
Any other advice on this would help too.

Cheers guys.
 
The foundation exams are quite easy. I haven't sat any practitioner courses yet but they are (or were, for ITILv2) something like 3 hour writen exams. I think it's slightly different now v3 is out (which is why I was waiting, I'll be doing the v3 courses before the end of the (financial) year, I hope, if I have time).

Jobs... Depends on a lot of things, company, location, etc. Do some research on line.

Prince2 is project management which is useful, but not essential, for ITIL. I've done it a long time ago and it wasn't too bad, although I've forgotten most of the terms and so on, you just sort of get on with it after a while.

Any other advice? Concentrate on v3, don't bother with any v2 courses. There are loads of sites dedicated to ITIL, do a google search for them.

For starters try http://www.itlibrary.org/ and http://www.itilcommunity.com/

Hope that helps a bit.
 
Hi mate, just yesterday I passed my ITIL v2 Foundation. It was a resit though because I didn't revise when I went on the course and it was cut from 4 days to 2 (however revising myself for the past 3 days was enough to get a 72% pass). The pass mark is 65%.

It's not a blow over as any ITIL is a good qualification to have and means something to an employer so it's not just a case of skipping through it and some of the questions are quite tough.

Cant answer many of the other questions but quite a few organisations implement ITIL now so you will definately have an advantage with the qualifications, especially the ITIL practitioner. Oh and the PRINCE2 practitioner is a very good qualification to have but hard, a few project managers failed it in our organisation!
 
Cant answer many of the other questions but quite a few organisations implement ITIL now so you will definately have an advantage with the qualifications, especially the ITIL practitioner. Oh and the PRINCE2 practitioner is a very good qualification to have but hard, a few project managers failed it in our organisation!

I was thinking more along the lines of ITIL V3 Practitioner + Prince2 Foundation!

Thanks for the advise. :)
 
Ahhh good old ITIL

ITIL V2 exams will shortly be coming to an end. V2 was based on 10 Processes and 1 function. These were split into Service Support (Incident, Problem, Change, Configuration and Release process and also the Service Desk function) and Service Delivery (Service Level Management, Financial Management of IT, Capacity Management, IT Service Continuity and Availability Management).

The V2 exams are:

Foundation Level which was a 1hr 40 question multi-choice exam after a short classroom/online training course, not sure of the pass mark, but having worked for a few large out-sourcing companies it took me all of 10 minutes to whizz through the test and score 39/40. Some people found it hard and were mainly from the public sector as they had not really come across this way of thinking/working before (Just my opinion!). This was referred to as 'Green Badge' ITIL

Practitioner Level: For this you can do either each process seperately or as a cluster of processes (depending on the training provider). Only have experience of putting people on this course, but it was a three day instructor led classroom course, the exam consists of a 1-hour multiple choice paper consisting of 25 questions and a 1 hour 15 minute written assignment based on a scenario you are given at the start of your course. This gives you a 'Purple' badge if you pass the exam. You can take as many processes as you want.

Managers Level: What can i say, the most painful 2 weeks of my life! It's a 2 week course where you do Service Support one week, then Service Delivery the next. Followed by a couple of days of revision and going over the scenario that the exam is based on. After that it's onto the 2 x 3hr written exams, where you are asked 5 questions in each exam on each of the processes, it may be scenario based or may be purely on the process. You need 50% pass on BOTH exams to gain the certification, and 60% on each to gain a distinction! (Grrr, poxy 59% on Service Support! :)) I would say these exams were easily the hardest exams i have taken since 'A' Levels, i think i averaged 50 sides of A4 for each exam.

V3 is the 'New' ITIL, based around lifecycles covers

- Service Strategy
- Service Design
- Service Transition
- Service Operation
- Continual Service Improvement

It gives you more of an insight into what is actually involved from evaluation of ITIL as a service management methodolgy to actually implementing it and using it on a day/day basis. Something V2 was severely lacking in. Not done the exams yet, but would hazard a guess it would be

Foundation - 1hr Multi Choice testing basics of ITIL

Intermediate - Lifecycle Stream & Capability Stream - total of 9 seperate exams each of which are sat seperately much like the old practitioner, you don't have to take all 9 ;). I would guess they are going to be a using a harder multi-choice exam (Sat my MSP a while back and instead of options A-D you had options A-I with lots of true/false statements etc)

Diploma - You need the foundation level, a few of the intermediate levels and then a further exam to reach a certain number of ITIL points to gain the qualification. You can also get this by having V2 managers and doing a bridging course to V3.

Advanced Diploma - Bsaically write a book on ITIL and know the right people! :) only kidding, it's not bee developed yet, but would expect very few people to get to this level.

With regards Prince2, it is 'owned' by the same government agency, the OGC, so can be used/tailored to implement ITIL if you don't already have a project management methodology in your organisation. I didn't find the exams too bad, but i know some have struggled (my latest PM has not passed and is resitting next month). From that, you can do MSP (Managing Succesful Programmes) again from OGC which uses a portfolio of Prince2 projects (if you have no Project methodology) to deliver benefits in a programme. You can then also use M_o_R (Management of Risk) again from OGC to manage risks associated with Projects and Programmes - See where i am going with this??? :) It's all very OGC'ish isn't it! Prince2, MSP and M_o_R are all available at different levels, usually at least foundation and practitioner.

Jobs are plenty, can be anything from Service Desk people to change analysts, to release managers, to capacity managers to Service Delivery Managers etc. Just put in ITIL into Jobserve and look through the jobs on offer, it's countless. Again, wages differ so much also, from £10 to £100k depending on what you are doing.

/edit PS, can you tell my line of work? :)
 
Ah good old ITIL and Prince2. As I have said in previous threads my wife is the Sales Director for a company that produces CBT courses for Prince2, ITILv2 and v3, M_o_R, MSP and also classroom training.

If you would like to speak to her drop me some details and she will call you with regards to your needs, I know she has helped a few other people that have mentioned ITIL and Price2 on here.
 
I did the ITIL Foundation exam (easy multiple choice exam) and then the Service Desk & Incident Management Practicioner exam (not so easy written and multiple choice exam) with the hope that I could work it into my job but I've not been given the chance to :(. I actually found it quite interesting so I'm now looking for a job which will involve it.
 
Ive done ITIL but only to foundation level, not sure which version as it was done back in 2005.

The guy that trained us in it was absolutely hopeless and only served to put the class to sleep. None of what he taught sunk in so its no wonder I had to resit. Did my own work and passed the resit.

Some people find the exams a breeze, others like myself need time to absorb and understand the stuff. You cant just pass an ITIL exam by being knowledgeable, you have to really understand all the principles because the questions are worded in a very tricky way.
 
Ahhh good old ITIL

Jobs are plenty, can be anything from Service Desk people to change analysts, to release managers, to capacity managers to Service Delivery Managers etc. Just put in ITIL into Jobserve and look through the jobs on offer, it's countless. Again, wages differ so much also, from £10 to £100k depending on what you are doing.

/edit PS, can you tell my line of work? :)

Thank you. This is why I love OCUK, you can get great advice.

Will be looking at the middle ground job wise as I have 7 years experience managing/implementing helpdesk/service management. Just need some qualifications and a little more experience. I also needed the 7 years to find I have a dislike of the technical side of IT!.
 
Ive done ITIL but only to foundation level, not sure which version as it was done back in 2005.

The guy that trained us in it was absolutely hopeless and only served to put the class to sleep. None of what he taught sunk in so its no wonder I had to resit. Did my own work and passed the resit.

Some people find the exams a breeze, others like myself need time to absorb and understand the stuff. You cant just pass an ITIL exam by being knowledgeable, you have to really understand all the principles because the questions are worded in a very tricky way.


This was my exact situation, I had to teach it myself. It's not just all common sense either you need to know the concepts behind this framework.

Also my company loosely uses an ITIL approach but it differs from what the syllabus said so this made it harder too. If you have experience of working in an ITIL environment it will be much much easier but if it’s all new to you, you will need to learn the material.
 
Ah good old ITIL and Prince2. As I have said in previous threads my wife is the Sales Director for a company that produces CBT courses for Prince2, ITILv2 and v3, M_o_R, MSP and also classroom training.

If you would like to speak to her drop me some details and she will call you with regards to your needs, I know she has helped a few other people that have mentioned ITIL and Price2 on here.

Thanks for the offer. I will keep this in mind once I get the green light from my employer.
 
Have over the last few years done ITILv 2 Foundation, Service Level Management Practiioner, and Change Practictioner.

Just finished (last week) taking the Managers exams, as posted above beeping hard work. Gut feeling is that I may not pass both papers which is a pain as I finish my current project in 6 weeks and will be looking for another role within the same firm.
 
Sorry to trawl this up from the dead again. ILITv3 Foundation if im to study this by my self can anyone reccomend books that i will need?

I take it the foundation one doesnt requier
- Service Strategy
- Service Design
- Service Transition
- Service Operation
- Continual Service Improvement
 
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