ivy bridge 3770k easy overclock ?

Would be quite hillerious if Realtemp / Core Temp were reading Ivybridge temperatures incorrectly - they haven't been updated for around 5-6 months. :D

lol, well it just goes to show mate that programs are infact reading the new z77 and ivy bridge tempreatures wrong, just proved it right here tonight, but I guess its all down to the ivy just being released at the very end of april, so not many software companies will have even caught up to speed with it yet as usual, lol, but anyway, we found out tonight that the latest version of AIDA64 does infact support the new z77 and ivy platform :) (and is recommended with asus too), Glad I found that out actually as I was wondering what the heck....lol;)
 
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Does anyone have any ideas about anything I could tweak in the bios to get my idle tempreatures down a bit as I feel as if 33c-35c is rather high for idle after the pc has been on for maybe an hour or two ???

Another thing I was wondering is, I have seen the guys on the youtube videos doing this but they do it so fast I dont know what they are actually doing, they can get the cpu voltage to go down automatically when not under stress and then it will go up to what you have locked it to maximum when it gets stressed out, how and what do I change to do that, could someone tell me please the answer to both these questions if possible ? Thanks;)

I am not used to the asus motherboards or bios at all, so thats why I dont know my way around them and what exactly I should be changing etc, for the past 3.5 years I had MSi.
 
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should be something called speedstep that will make the 4.7 Ghz clock down to about 1600,for the volts you need to use offset voltage if im not mistaken or could need to enable C states
 
should be something called speedstep that will make the 4.7 Ghz clock down to about 1600,for the volts you need to use offset voltage if im not mistaken or could need to enable C states

thanks mate,

yea mate, I knew about the speedstep thing, but that only seems to drop the cpu speed when not under stress, I could be wrong, but I think theres a way to also make the voltage go up and down too and only let it go as high as I have set it, thats what I am not sure about, the offset thing I have seen but dont have a clue about it mate to be honest, and/or enable C states, I cant remember that one, hmmmm :confused:
 
should be something called speedstep that will make the 4.7 Ghz clock down to about 1600,for the volts you need to use offset voltage if im not mistaken or could need to enable C states

thanks mate,


yea mate, I knew about the speedstep thing, but that only seems to drop the cpu speed when not under stress, I could be wrong, but I think theres a way to also make the voltage go up and down too and only let it go as high as I have set it, thats what I am not sure about, the offset thing I have seen but dont have a clue about it mate to be honest, and/or enable C states, I cant remember that one, hmmmm :confused:

@ jeff6475 , could you maybe find out for me mate as I am a bit lost with this, I would very much appreciate it if you could, thanks man :)
 
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Doesn't the CPU temp in aida read the Tcase and you'd need to select the individual cores to get the core temp?

For refererence the Tcase max is 67.4c so if that 72c is the Tcase then that is too high.
 
Doesn't the CPU temp in aida read the Tcase and you'd need to select the individual cores to get the core temp?

For refererence the Tcase max is 67.4c so if that 72c is the Tcase then that is too high.

So yes, I am correct according to what I could find on the Aida forums:

"CPU" temperature is read from the onboard sensor chip, so it shows the processor socket or diode temperature measured by the sensor chip. Individual core temperatures, "CPU Package" and the rest of the mentioned temperatures are all measured by the CPU itself, using its integrated (on-die) temperature diodes. Of course the on-die diodes will show more accurate temperatures, since they're the ones that can follow the heating up or cooling down of the processor the quickest.

The 72c is measured from the mobo so is less accurate.
 
Doesn't the CPU temp in aida read the Tcase and you'd need to select the individual cores to get the core temp?

For refererence the Tcase max is 67.4c so if that 72c is the Tcase then that is too high.

its set as automatic, gives no option to manual input has a drop down menu with 70,75,80,85,90,95 all the way to 125
 
Doesn't the CPU temp in aida read the Tcase and you'd need to select the individual cores to get the core temp?

For refererence the Tcase max is 67.4c so if that 72c is the Tcase then that is too high.

I dunno mate, in aida64 i turn everything else off, all the other things like voltage checks and fan speeds etc and all the cores for the cpu and just leave the main "CPU" one selected and thats it as its just the overall cpu temp we want and I think selecting that option gives you an average temp for the cpu, I dunno though, I could be wrong, but certainly this new version of aida64 does have a whole lot more options and to be honest they need switched off when doing a stress test on the cpu as they are only making the stress even worse, thats just my thoughts anyway, I could be wrong and probably are, lol.;)
 
Doesn't the CPU temp in aida read the Tcase and you'd need to select the individual cores to get the core temp?

For refererence the Tcase max is 67.4c so if that 72c is the Tcase then that is too high.

How can 72c be too high when Intel have said as long as you dont get near 105c then its all fine, I know that doesnt mean you should go close to 105 but even in the 70's is surely fine, hmmm :confused:

I wish I could find that damn document that intel posted up about temps for the ivy bridge 3770K, someone else posted it but I cant find it now :(

p.s
whos running a constant 24/7 everyday stresstest on thier cpu anyway, lol, not anyone I know, so the majority of us wont even need to worry if temps reach 70 or 90 in a stress test as we will never ever hit that amount of stress anyway under normal circumstances unless you use the pc for things that will do that sort of stuff and I can bet any money that 99% of people dont, but its still good to check it passes a stress test though, thats the main thing I guess.
 
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should be something called speedstep that will make the 4.7 Ghz clock down to about 1600,for the volts you need to use offset voltage if im not mistaken or could need to enable C states

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should be something called speedstep that will make the 4.7 Ghz clock down to about 1600,for the volts you need to use offset voltage if im not mistaken or could need to enable C states

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Originally Posted by scotslad
thanks mate,


yea mate, I knew about the speedstep thing, but that only seems to drop the cpu speed when not under stress, I could be wrong, but I think theres a way to also make the voltage go up and down too and only let it go as high as I have set it, thats what I am not sure about, the offset thing I have seen but dont have a clue about it mate to be honest, and/or enable C states, I cant remember that one, hmmmm

@ jeff6475 , could you maybe find out for me mate as I am a bit lost with this, I would very much appreciate it if you could, thanks man
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update on this mate, I tried the "enable c state thing", i found it in the section in bios called "cpu power managment support" and it was called "package c state support", it was disabled, so I enabled it and saved/rebooted etc but still my voltages didnt drop :(

The other thing you mentioned about the "offset voltage", I seen that too but left it alone as I wasnt too sure what I should be doing, I even read my manual, but to me it was like reading chinese upside down, lol.

Can you see if you can find out anymore about what I am trying to do here mate as there is no need for my voltages to stay fixed up high when idle, I am sure there is a way to do it so that you can set the top voltage you want and it will hit the top voltage under mega stress but then drop again when there is no stress, as I said, I have seen guys do it in the youtube videos with my exact same board and cpu, but they do it so fast I cant make out what the heck they are doing, lol.

You can let me know mate when you get a chance please. thanks :)
 
Hmm, just running Aida now and my temps are 10c lower than I get in core temp/real temp. Somethnig is definately wrong with one of them and i presume it's Aida as thats the one not equal to the others.
 
Ah, just figured it out, you need to manually set the Tjmax to 105c in file/preferences/hardware monitoring for aida to have the correct temp. "automatic" set mine to 90c for some reason on a chip with 100 Tjmax. That will give you the correct temperatures that should be in line with real temp/core temp etc
 
instead of setting fixed/manual voltage use OFFSET and then you will need to have a play -0.030 for example save bios and reboot quick stress test see what you get and then change it again say -0.035 until you get the lowest volts you want
also make sure C1E is enabled
 
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instead of setting fixed/manual voltage use OFFSET and then you will need to have a play -0.030 for example save bios and reboot quick stress test see what you get and then change it again say -0.035 until you get the lowest volts you want
also make sure C1E is enabled

Ok mate, sorry it took so long in getting back to you, I have been running tests all night long and decided that after I seen the real cpu tempreatures with the "latest" edition of AIDA64, I thought noooo, thats a bit to close for comfort to the 100c mark, I was hitting temps on a couple of cores like 92c etc, so I thought to myself, lets use the head here, drop it down 100MHz from 4.7 to 4.6 and that let me get my voltages and tempreatures down to a more reasonable level (see the attached picture).

Eventually I got 4.6 stable @ 1.230v, so thats a drop from the 1.290v I was using for the 4.7 OC, and the temps came down a bit too, a bit safer I guess especially as I want to try and keep this system for maybe 3 years, lol.

As you can see in the picture though (if you can see it), I am stable at 4.6 with the 1.230v, but I have noticed if you look down at the temps, core 1 & 4 are always cooler than cores 2 & 3 which you can see (when burn testing anyway), why is that, is that normal ? (by the way, that was slap bang in the middle of a miximum stress test on intel burn test as you can see, so the temps are ok, I think, are they ?), when I had it at 4.7 & 2.9v I was edging into the 90's, lol.

But, soon as the system is idle now the temps drop down to approx 30-35 on all cores.

All these tests were done in the room here which at the time was approx 26c degrees give or take a couple of degrees.

The other thing I wanted to add is something that I guess you or anyone else in the know can help me with, I did manage to locate "C1E" and I enabled it as you suggested, it still didnt make any difference though, but I left it enabled anyway, but the thing I still cant work out is the offset voltage thing, I tried it but what kept happening is my main voltage that I had to have at the top so that the system would run, I.E- 1.230v, soon as I tried to doing anything with the offset my main set temp dropped in the bios after a save and reeboot and then my system wouldnt boot up or would freeze, so yea, I cant figure that offset thing out at all if someone would like to help me please ?

Basically, I just want my top end voltage to sit at say 1.230v, and then when the system idles the voltage also idles down too to a lower voltage, just like turbo makes the cpu freq go up n down under less or more stress etc too, you know what I mean ? I cant work it out though :confused:

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