Ivy Bridge...How much?

the_director · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:27

What kind of clock can you get from the average 2600k?

Krono5 · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:34

the_director said:
What kind of clock can you get from the average 2600k?

4.8-5 on high end air?

4.6 if you have a very bad chip.

ussff · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:35

I have read the 2600K is not quite so sweet to OC as the 2500K - please feel free to put me right... so I'm still at 2500K bang for ££'s - I think?

the_director · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:36

I have a H100 waiting for Ivy, but not sure about Ivy over Sandy if it's going to be more expensive.

Dervious · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:36

ussff said:
...roll on the sandybridge price drop "please" I hung on with my old AMD waiting for Bulldozer release so I could buy a Phenom II at knock down prices... and they became very rare, very expensive, VERY quick!

I've switched to Intel ...gone a little higher up the price band looking at a 2500k with the hope that I'll see a price drop on Ivy release but Ivy seems to be flopping for the enthusiast end of the market; is a 2500K/2600K suddenly going to become more prized and start inflating as stock draws down?

I'm thinking of going SB i5 too. I think I read that you have an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 waiting for a CPU. That's the MB that interests me. I`ve seen an i5 2500K 3.3ghz @ a shade over £150. The question is, do I secure the deal, or take a chance that prices might fall a bit in the next week or two ? How long will SB i5s be around, and will they get "snapped up" in view of the rather underwhelming reports on IB ?

ussff · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:50

Dervious said:
I'm thinking of going SB i5 too. I think I read that you have an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 waiting for a CPU. That's the MB that interests me. I`ve seen an i5 2500K 3.3ghz @ a shade over £150. The question is, do I secure the deal, or take a chance that prices might fall a bit in the next week or two ? How long will SB i5s be around, and will they get "snapped up" in view of the rather underwhelming reports on IB ?

My only experience is from AMD... Waiting for Bulldozer so I could clean up on a PhenomII 1100t - It didn't go well, although I wasn't sat on my PC on launch day, because previously I've always snapped up a bargin 3 months later; Cheap Mobo and CPU!

Its a couple of hours in and ....

well I'm commited to this as RAM and MOBO have been paid for - they are in the post as I type this. 16Gb Samsung Green Ram and Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 .... can't quite afford a CPU until next pay day, cos I went 16Gb. Lets hope prices don't fly off the roof!

Krono5 · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:58

The 2500k should drop as if the 2600k is only £210 atm on OCUK that gives a good idea of what is to come and the first of many reductions. The hard part is getting the timing right between when they lower prices and when the chips become rare enough for prices to increase again.

Fire_fly · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:58

Dervious said:
I'm thinking of going SB i5 too. I think I read that you have an Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 waiting for a CPU. That's the MB that interests me. I`ve seen an i5 2500K 3.3ghz @ a shade over £150. The question is, do I secure the deal, or take a chance that prices might fall a bit in the next week or two ? How long will SB i5s be around, and will they get "snapped up" in view of the rather underwhelming reports on IB ?

I'm still torn between grabbing an I5 2500K or waiting untill release day and getting a 3570K, can't decide.

jwsg · 23 Apr 2012 at 19:59

I'm going ITX and will use the HD4000 gfx so IB actually makes sense - it has to be 3570K as things stand (although it may never get clocked) and at £170 max as better parts may come along later in the year.

But if you're using external gfx and want to overclock then a 2500K at £150 sounds like a bargain to me.

ussff · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:00

Krono5 said:
The 2500k should drop as if the 2600k is only £210 atm on OCUK that gives a good idea of what is to come and the first of many reductions. The hard part is getting the timing right between when they lower prices and when the chips become rare enough for prices to increase again.

Ive just locked my credit card away - cos I'm bound to mess the timing up! :rolleyes:

james_ati · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:09

Its strange that OCUK staff havent commented on IB price, this leads to me to think they will be either a little cheaper or the same price as SB is now.

Dervious · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:14

jwsg said:
I'm going ITX and will use the HD4000 gfx so IB actually makes sense - it has to be 3570K as things stand (although it may never get clocked) and at £170 max as better parts may come along later in the year.

But if you're using external gfx and want to overclock then a 2500K at £150 sounds like a bargain to me.

Please don't tell me that !

My credit card is looking a bit worried.

Looks like stock levels are falling on that 2500K, seems others have the same idea.

To buy, or not to buy ?

BTW Currently running a GTX460 1Gb on a 550BE, 3 cores @3.5ghz. It still "does the job", but I have a touch of "upgraditis". I'm also pretty certain that the switch to Intel will give a noticeable boost in speed. I've just got Skyrim, and although it runs pretty well (60fps in many places), there is a fair bit of "stuttering". Looking at GPU load, it doesn't often reach 100%. I reckon it needs a bit more "grunt" from the CPU.

ussff · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:38

Dervious said:
Looks like stock levels are falling on that 2500K, seems others have the same idea.

dare I ask WHERE your info is coming from?

Dervious · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:43

ussff said:
dare I ask WHERE your info is coming from?

I shall obey forum rules and resist mentioning the competition. Easy to find if you look for it. I would buy from OCUK without hesitation if the price was lower. I wonder what the next week will bring ?

BTW. I'm now favoring a Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H*, better overclocker than the Asrock from what I`ve been reading.

* No doubt this will change in the next few minutes/hours/possibly days !

wazza300 · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:45

ussff said:
I have read the 2600K is not quite so sweet to OC as the 2500K - please feel free to put me right... so I'm still at 2500K bang for ££'s - I think?

it all depends on whether you get a good chip or not,2600k is a multithreading chip so usually it needs abit more voltage than a 2500k,performance increases though in multithreaded apps

ussff · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:47

deja vu of the Bulldozer release nightmare, trying to get a Phenom 1100t - So I switched to Intel and .....WHY ME!

Krono5 · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:48

I think I might wait for this to happen to the 3570k's or significant 2500k/2600k price drops, which ever happens first.

ussff · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:50

wazza300 said:
it all depends on whether you get a good chip or not,2600k is a multithreading chip so usually it needs abit more voltage than a 2500k,performance increases though in multithreaded apps

GAMES pc only... I have an admin pc for surf, photo work etc... but only value SPEED on my gaming rig (as my admin is usually made from bits of my previous gaming rig that survived)

...so 2500K? Whilst I can still find one at a reasonable price?

wazza300 · 23 Apr 2012 at 20:56

ussff said:
GAMES pc only... I have an admin pc for surf, photo work etc... but only value SPEED on my gaming rig (as my admin is usually made from bits of my previous gaming rig that survived)

...so 2500K? Whilst I can still find one at a reasonable price?

you realize you can stick an ib chip in if you have a p67/z68/z77 motherboard?

if you go for a sb 2500k wait a while till ib comes out,youll see hoards of folks getting rid of there chips to go ib,meaning a good time to buy,plus shops will be wanting to shift old 2500/2600/2700k stock to make way for ib

the_director · 23 Apr 2012 at 21:04

I have read around half of the reviews for Ivy now. It seems clear that if you are upgrading from an older chip like myself that it makes sense to buy Ivy - it is the latest and greatest and pricing should be around same as 2500k / 2600k. However, overclocking for real enthusiasts is going to be noticeably worse, so If you are building new and want to head for 5ghz plus, you really should buy Sandy.

For most users looking for 4.4-4.6 then Ivy should be fine - certainly from what I have read 4.4-4.5 is achievable on low volts and reasonable temps, but pushing on things get hot very quickly.

Personally I think - as tempted as I am by a 2600K @ £209.99 - that having waited for Ivy I should buy the latest chip and look for a modest 4.5 overclock at low volts. I will ask the forum's opinion before I decide...