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Ivybridge perf increas

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Anyone got any idea yet? All these new boards gloat about supporting it, but what performance increase will we be expecting say from upgrading from an OC'd i5 2500K?

Or is too early to say? Will it be worth it?
 

Thats not what it says, the PROCESS can perform up to 37% better, thats got nothing to do with architecture or anything else.

Its also got its best performance increase at low voltage, which likely means best improvements are likely in low power/mobile stuff, at normal voltage and high clock speeds the performance advantage is a heck of a lot lower.

Could mean lower idle power, or higher clock speeds at idle/low power levels, could mean anything really.

In terms of architecture Ivy was "rumoured" to be aiming at 20% faster, but when you take into account that the IGP is going from 6 to 12 errm, shaders, compute blocks, I can't remember what Intel call their stuff, then the IGP based benchmarks will massively go up, probably a LOT more than 20%, so of 20% is an average performance increase its likely very similar in CPU performance, and a lot faster in graphical performance/encoding/anything that can use the gpu well.

Tick/tock, Intel rarely make large changes on a new process, no one is expecting them to do so this time. Its the chip after Ivy that will be interesting.
 
I'd suggest thinking of it like the broadband marketing.... Up to 10MB means you get about 2 in most cases! lol ;)

In all honesty without hard data its all just rumoured rubbish with zero credibility. You'd likely want to skip a generation from an overclocked 2500K imho, going to be a pointless upgrade if previous products are anything to go by.
 
Its not meaningless, it just has NOTHING TO DO WITH IVYBRIDGE.

The process can be up to 37% faster AT LOW VOLTAGE. A 3Ghz Sandybridge would perform the same on 32nm as a 37% faster low voltage 22nm, if it was still the same architecture and the same 3Ghz.
 
Its not meaningless, it just has NOTHING TO DO WITH IVYBRIDGE.

The process can be up to 37% faster AT LOW VOLTAGE. A 3Ghz Sandybridge would perform the same on 32nm as a 37% faster low voltage 22nm, if it was still the same architecture and the same 3Ghz.

OK, it's a meaningless number as far as Ivy Bridge is concerned ;)
 
Tick/tock, Intel rarely make large changes on a new process, no one is expecting them to do so this time. Its the chip after Ivy that will be interesting.

Makes sense I suppose, kinda like how ATi used to make pipe cleaner chips to get their feet wet with a new process before releasing the top end stuff.

Ivy sounds like it will be a good choice for CULV parts if what is quoted about performance at low voltage is true though?
 
Makes sense I suppose, kinda like how ATi used to make pipe cleaner chips to get their feet wet with a new process before releasing the top end stuff.

Ivy sounds like it will be a good choice for CULV parts if what is quoted about performance at low voltage is true though?

No, not really, 37% performance doesn't mean anything for chips, its the process.

If Intel make a smaller Ivybridge chip thats 2Ghz and the same basic architecture as Sandybridge, it will perform the same as a 2Ghz 32nm Sandy.

If they decide to bump the clocks up by 37%, it would scale quite well, thats very unlikely. The lowest voltage where the performance increase is the highest, and in terms of process, performance increase means switching speed, the Ghz its capable of essentially, you're talking about 0.5-0.6v, its closer to 10-15% at higher speed.

This is basically always the case, for every process. Most processes simply use new tricks to get transistors closer together without the problems from moving them closer together stopping it working. These will increase switching speed, drop leakage, drop power usage, etc, etc.

I would dare say that 32nm had a fairly similar performance advantage over 45nm 10-20% more "process performance" at the high end of the voltage scale.

Don't forget Intel is planning to move Atom to 22nm, which will also be a low power part, and is quite probably the chip to gain the most from the "performance increase" at low voltage.

If Intel decide to put out a 3.6Ghz chip, it won't be 37% faster, if they decide to release a 5Ghz chip, it should be 37% faster. They won't though, I'd look for, better competition with llano/trinity next year in terms of igp performance, a bump in clock speeds, a higher turbo clock, and a small bump in clock speed of the highest models, a very decent bump in benchmarks involving the IGP, and very little increase IF ANY in cpu only benchmarks clock for clock. I'd also expect the top chip to be a bit faster than the top Sandy in clock speed 100-200Mhz.

Whatever is after Ivy looks very interesting, the rumours I heard a while back would be along the lines of octo cores replacing quads, which frankly, will be I would think, 70-80% faster but will depend on platform, bandwidth(will they stay dual channel and cheap in the mainstream?) and if they cut the GPU from say the 8-6 core parts or not. I wouldn't be surprised if we got octo cores without gpu's, and quad cores with the IGP.
 
I would guess that Ivy will barely be more than 5% better than Sandy in the CPU department. Probably a lot better for graphics. Possibly more power efficient.
 
Don't forget Intel is planning to move Atom to 22nm, which will also be a low power part, and is quite probably the chip to gain the most from the "performance increase" at low voltage.
Well they need to do something to counter the growing threat from future ARM Cortex developments, not sure that the 22nm process will be enough to give Atom a competitive performance per watt though (I'm thinking not).
I would guess that Ivy will barely be more than 5% better than Sandy in the CPU department. Probably a lot better for graphics. Possibly more power efficient.
I would guess that you are correct, which only makes the shouts of "wait for Ivy!" which I've been hearing almost since SB launched in January seem all the more ridiculous.
 
37% more cpu power + even lower power consumption than sandy bridge,thats really nice.but i hope they make a 6 or 8 core ivy i want a valid reason to upgrade from sandy bridge. :)
 
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