Jaguar S-type vs X-type & V6 worth it?

[toprock]

Evening all,

first post

I'm after a bit of luxury motoring, and after borrowing a V6 2.7Diesel S-type i've fallen for the luxury feel of the interior, and fantastic comfort. The mpg impressed me too getting 45mpg on a run.

Cover around 10-20k per year depending on work.


After some thoughts, I loved the V6 I borrowed and found it more than quick enough (used to a VW 2.0 TDI) , but for only 0.3 second slower 0-60 I could have an x-type 2.2 diesel and get a possible 60mpg on a run

I guess i'm after some reasoning/sanity check as to why not to plump straight for the x-type with massive mpg, what are the other engines going to give me? apart from a bigger fuel bill for the sake of 0.3-1.1 seconds off the line?

Knocked together a table with the various engines I was comparing...

Thanks!

 

[[TW]Fox]

You'll be very lucky to get 60mpg on a run and you'll miss out on the waftability of a Jaguar if you sully it with a 4 cylinder diesel. It isn't all about 0-60 - it's about refinement and smoothness and the 2.2d is neither refined nor smooth.

The petrol engines will be smooth and quiet - you'll almost never hear them as you silently waft around town in luxury rather than accompanied by the hateful clatter of a minicab engine intruding on your otherwise luxurious experience

 

[commited]

Although never hugely popular, the S-type isn't a bad car at all, just overshadowed by the e39 (and arguable the W210 although not imho). My father has owned a 3.0V6 auto from 2006 when it was 1 year old and it's a nice place to be and they sell for peanuts now. Whatever you do, make sure it's a facelift (54 reg onwards) and has full service history. The cars have various specific problems, just like every car of that age at this stage, but DIY isn't too bad and parts prices aren't awful as a lot of them are Ford parts.

I wouldn't really bother with the X-type, personally, but it also does have it's fans.

How many miles/year do you do?

 

[Wilderbeast]

S-Type is a great car as long as you don't require any boot space at all. 2.7d is pretty nice, frugal too in the real world. X-Type is a serious step down from the S in terms of cabin space, test them both though, as these things are quite subjective, and you might find the lack of interior space a non issue.

If you're going for the X, get the v6 petrol, the 2.2 dagger is simply woeful. They never put a bad engine into the S, just make sure you're 54 plate onwards (as commited said), and find one with a spec you like, I think pretty much everything was an optional extra on the S, so do your shopping, there's a huge range of specs out there.

 

[Rilot]

Whatever you do, make sure it's a facelift (54 reg onwards)

That's not strictly that important. 52 onwards was the big interior and mechanical facelift and is the earliest version you should get. The 54 refresh was mainly cosmetic and they actually downgraded some spec at that point. The R for example loses the Brembo brakes from 54 onwards.

 

[Ricochet J]

He joins a computer forum to ask a question about luxury cars

 

[commited]

S-Type is a great car as long as you don't require any boot space at all. 2.7d is pretty nice, frugal too in the real world. X-Type is a serious step down from the S in terms of cabin space, test them both though, as these things are quite subjective, and you might find the lack of interior space a non issue.

If you're going for the X, get the v6 petrol, the 2.2 dagger is simply woeful. They never put a bad engine into the S, just make sure you're 54 plate onwards (as commited said), and find one with a spec you like, I think pretty much everything was an optional extra on the S, so do your shopping, there's a huge range of specs out there.

The SE comes with a fair amount of standard kit - heated seats, electric everything and auto everything.

As regards the facelift, 54 plate really made the S-type look sharper and more modern than the first iteration.

 

[Curio]

Avoid very early X-Types as well - my dad had one of the first ones off the line and it was a POS. So many things went wrong with that car. I think they ironed the kinks out after a while.

 

[toprock]

You'll be very lucky to get 60mpg on a run and you'll miss out on the waftability of a Jaguar if you sully it with a 4 cylinder diesel. It isn't all about 0-60 - it's about refinement and smoothness and the 2.2d is neither refined nor smooth.

The petrol engines will be smooth and quiet - you'll almost never hear them as you silently waft around town in luxury rather than accompanied by the hateful clatter of a minicab engine intruding on your otherwise luxurious experience

cheers i'm liking the sound of this wafting lark

Although never hugely popular, the S-type isn't a bad car at all, just overshadowed by the e39 (and arguable the W210 although not imho). My father has owned a 3.0V6 auto from 2006 when it was 1 year old and it's a nice place to be and they sell for peanuts now. Whatever you do, make sure it's a facelift (54 reg onwards) and has full service history. The cars have various specific problems, just like every car of that age at this stage, but DIY isn't too bad and parts prices aren't awful as a lot of them are Ford parts.

I wouldn't really bother with the X-type, personally, but it also does have it's fans.

How many miles/year do you do?

I've already shifted to wanting an S-type now after reading some more reviews. The ford parts sound like a bonus, although some reviews are saying repairs are expensive as getting to said part is hard as the engine is so crammed in and tight to work on.

Not so keen on older bmw's, not sure if its the styling or stigma they carry ?

He joins a computer forum to ask a question about luxury cars

The advice i've read on here is top notch, I see the motors section as a forum in itself LOL

The SE comes with a fair amount of standard kit - heated seats, electric everything and auto everything.

As regards the facelift, 54 plate really made the S-type look sharper and more modern than the first iteration.

I'm looking for a 2004 upwards now +1