Jobs involving computers?
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Just not true. Some do, most don't. Plus most older tradesmen I know have health problems from the manual labour they do. Arthritis in the hands etc They don't tell you about that...
Truth is, doing most jobs 8 hours a day makes it crap.
Web Development is disingenuous term, the web is just an interface. The interface could be connected to the most complicated system on earth. Most web developers also do stuff like stock control systems and other business logic for their companies etc to handle fulfillment.
Doing JEE development could be just classed as web development, but it also happens to be the most overly complicated system(Well J2EE was) ever that takes people forever to learn in full and consultants(70k+) can earn a bit.
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People who say they hate IT and wish they'd never done it, would be helpful as Hades has done if you post what it is in IT you do and how long you've been doing it
Well I'm an ITQ assessor I go around the country watching learners at work and then try and write up in a report how the learner has incorporated parts of his job towards his assignment. For a start most of them are never there/late. When they do turn up they can't be arsed with me, a lot of people can't understand me because of my mackem accent. The travelling sucks, the write ups are basically all the same and the pay isn't fantastic.
I work in a large IT co. I don't do IT work, but the general feeling I get is that programming/database/DBA stuff is generally dull and tedious. The infrastructure side looks far more interesting, data centres are quite cool (they need to be 99.99%+ reliable so ours have multiple megawatt back up generators and 1/2 a million quids worth of fuel in the tanks). Designing exchange environments etc. (IT architecture) looks quite cool too. I'd check that kind of space out and avoid anything to do with programming.
Programmers tend to be computer scientists which is a academic and theoretical subject. If you don't like theory you probably won't like programming. They tend to be grads.
If you like fiddling with hardware and configuring software(not designing it) then infrastructure and datacentres are for you. They tend to have certs not academic
qualifications.
However the big bucks are the high end of the programming side, in quant finance or consulting for sap, oracle, jee software. Mainly because it's difficult.
Programmers tend to have knack for it,
and enjoy it. They know who they are. But they suffer from burnout.
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Not really an IT job though, I was more getting at the people who are specifically working in an IT role who say they hate it.
Just curious
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Not really an IT job though, I was more getting at the people who are specifically working in an IT role who say they hate it.
Just curious
I think you'll find it is IT related. I use a computer and needed qualifications in computing subjects to be able to understand the elements of the diploma.
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No wonder you don't like IT, it sounds like you're doing nothing to do with it!
Thanks for the post. VFX seems to be a nice balance of technical skill, creativity, decent pay and varied work. Do you work in the industry? If so I'd love to hear how you got into it and what your job involves
. I've read that often it's a freelance kind of thing, so it's long hours and good pay when you're working, but then big breaks between jobs? I was looking at Escape earlier. 10k for their basic qualification seems pretty pricey. Do you think it'd be worth it, if I decide for sure that VFX is the route I want to go down? Would it be possible to just teach myself how to use the programs for free, using guides on the internet and experimenting?
Also what's the reasoning for learning Nuke instead of AE? Sorry for infinite questions lol.
....that sounds terrible
. The kinda job I want is one where I can create something visual, hence VFX, web design, UI/graphics design etc etc would be ideal. I'm just trying to learn what specific roles are available, what the prospects are and what experience/qualifications I should get, before I commit to anything.
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Ok, still not what I'd call an IT specific role but anyways, agree to disagree.
What I'm trying to find out from people who say they hate it is what are you doing about that fact?
I.e. if you hate it because you've been doing 1st line support for instance for the last 5 years then why are you still doing it? IF you like IT but hate doing that why not progress?
People who say they hate IT and wish they'd never done it, would be helpful as Hades has done if you post what it is in IT you do and how long you've been doing it
I'll elaborate a little more... I started in IT in 1987 straight out of school. Over the years I've done loads of different jobs but always in banking (mostly on the retail side of banking). That includes testing, mainframe development, Java development, project management, support analyst, service management and now application support manager in an investment bank.
What I hate about it nowadays is that in the very early years the work was extremely varied. Now, if you work for a large company, then the role tends to be quite narrow. I can't complain about my money as I'm not too far off six figures even as a permanent member of staff (contractors tend to earn more). But most people I see around me aren't paid anywhere nearly as much. That's because a large number of jobs have been offshored so there are many people competing for them in this country. Even the jobs here are very often outsourced to the large Indian consultancies.
Then there are all the audits and processes that you have to deal with if working in a large company. And the political pressure is high. Even if not in a managerial position the hours can be long and the pressure is quite high either to deliver something or to fix it immediately.
The last few roles I've worked in there has been the constant threat of redundancy and cost cutting.
I actually love the old years in IT and it' has given me a decent life. But the whole culture nowadays is very bad. Maybe it is better in a small company. But I certainly wouldn't recommend IT in Finance.
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See after 25 years in the job I can maybe understand it, and you've done a lot in that time and obviously doing ok now
I guess that's true. Also at heart I'm a techie and I miss those techie days. maybe that's what I should try to get back to but I couldn't afford to take a large reduction in salary with my current commitments.
I should also add that the rate of sickness due to back ache, stress and depression in this industry is phenominal.
I've always been a bit in the middle in that respect, I like the techy stuff but was/am by no means a die hard techy like other people in teams I've worked in.
Which has caused friction in the past, remember one role where a team member really didn't like me as he didn't think I should have been in the team and was a bit bitter about it.
Ignoring the fact that what I was there specifically to do no one else could do, as couldn't the previous 2 very expensive contractors, but to him the job was 100% techy and that was that.
I've always been a bit in the middle between the techy and business side of things, but I guess that kind of fits with the things I do.