June 15th - Silverstone - Renting Palmer JP1 for the day

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Hellooooo,

I am renting a Palmer JP1 for the day at Silverstone on 15th June.

I was going to be splitting it with a friend but he has had to back out due to personal reasons.

Is there anyone on here who would be interested in joining me?

It's a full day with the vehicle dedicated to us. Fully un-restricted vehicle and technician support.

Supplied by these guys:
https://www.rmatrackdays.com/Cars/Palmer-JP1

On their track day which has few cars on track and they are usually all very nice cars with good and considerate drivers - quite the experience itself compared to your usual track day.

Price is just shy of £1000 each... I might be willing to negotiate on this a little to share proportional track time if cost is a concern.

I was also planning on 2x 1 hour instructor sessions... 30 minutes each in the morning and 30 minutes each in the afternoon which would be £80 each with a very good instructor.

It'll be an epic day and I'm probably going to do it myself if no-one wants to join me, but I would prefer to share the cost and splitting that car between two people makes sense due to fatigue.

If anyone has been to a Palmersport day... this is the same car as the JP-LM but without the rev/torque limit you get on those days so you get to experience the full car on an epic track surrounded by some incredible machinery while being one of the fastest cars there.

I would possibly consider splitting it with another 2 people, but definitely no more so we all get a good amount of time in the car.

With two people and 15-20 minute rest for the car per hour and even split, that would be approximately 2.3-2.5 hours driving time each.

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Good luck finding a partner for the day, I have the original Peter Sneller designed and very successful Zeus Challenger carbon bodied factory race car, from which this corporate day car was developed, and the later Challenger built for the US market. You'll have great fun!
 
Sounds like that would be a lot of fun - same engine or something different?

I've done 2 Palmersport days, so have an idea of what the rev-limited version of this can do and got a very good time in my second visit in the JP-LM of 76.2s on the west circuit.

I'm looking forward to seeing what a de-restricted one can do on a fast circuit like silverstone... really play with that downforce.

Only thing for me is that I think it would be even better with a higher power v8 or something :)
 
The ex works car has a 2 litre Vauxhall / Opel in it, but it's massively lighter than the corporate cars, so faster. The ex USA car had a Toyota Formula Atlantic engine in it, that I have turbo charged. That is VERY very light, and a 10,750 RPM screamer pre turbo'ing. It now has different cams and a lower rev limit and a MUCH wider torque curve. Someone has put a short vid of it at Donington from years back, in original N/A format : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBgKYveCB9M

If you are interested the engine build with turbo conversion is documented here: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/111976-toyota-4a-ge-formula-atlantic-engine-adding-turbo.html

This is the carbon ex works one with the Opel in it

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Have a good day and take care!
 
Looks great, I imagine that's a lot of fun.

My friend and I were looking to go the 620R route... but we have seen some really good offers come up on ~2012 Radical SR3 RS cars and so we're just finalising details - been talking about it today.
 
We have factored that in and is the reason we originally decided on the 620R... but we want the Radical.

From reading the rebuild cycle Radical advertise is for racing... for track day use and being careful to avoid any over-revs - apparently the engines can go 100 hours between builds and the cost is about £3-4k per build.
 
They're hanging around £30k, the one we are shooting for is £29995

A couple more in the similar price but the others are the 1.3 and the one we are going for is a 1.5
 
Good luck with whatever you get, although I have to say I think you may find the build quality of the Radicals somewhat done down to a cost, whereas some of the ex Supersports cars were engineered superbly. I always advise novice race car buyers to work out what seems to them to be a realistic running costing, then double it and keep fingers well crossed :)
 
The SR2 would be sort of reasonably possible to run without a team, but bits will be VERY dear (check availability especially bodywork and wishbones, stuff that's easily damaged. the World Series single seater will be eye wateringly expensive, and really needs a small team to run one, they are quite complex things. I run an F3000, and raced in National F3. The F3 was quite modest to run. The F3000 is hugely expensive. F Renault is quite a sensible series, cost wise, and the cars are technically modern and well built. If you buy something carbon my next door neighbour "Carbon Carl" is an ex McLaren composites man and very good.
 
And if you are thinking of track days the ones that allow single seaters are very limited and you'd have to run just on noisy days as silencing the World series car would be very problematic indeed, and maybe the sports prototype, if aero stuff is in the way.
 
Yeah - that's why we're going the slightly more sensible route to begin with :)

5-10 year old F1 cars are going for almost manageable sums of money, but again - maintenance will be high...

F1 cars are the ones I've always dreamed of driving... well... at least up until they went to the newer teeny weeny engines.

F3000 would be fun, I'm sure... just wanting a V8 or V10 sitting behind me.



I know about test days thanks... we were going through a few things like getting a superkart each (test days even harder to find than single seaters)... then maybe a Jedi MK6 or Speads RM07 each... but ultimately we went to sharing a Radical as it is a similar experience to a single seater and there's the benefit of two seats to learn from each other & have some instruction from inside the car.

Maybe I'll see you at a track day some time :)
 
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