Just finished FF12

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Just finished Final Fantasy XII on ps2.

It felt like Metal Gear in the way that people and places have silly names so I actually have no idea who is being talked about in the cut scenes.

The gambits system means I just walk towards an enemy and the characters fight by themselves.

Does anyone else share my dissapointment?
 
FlukeRogi said:
I really enjoyed FFXII. If you didn't find yourself involved in the battles though, don't even look at FFXIII.
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FF13 is sat in the wrapper ready for me to start tomorrow.
I am willing to try it. FF12 has been a let down but at least it was better than FF10-2.

I do hope this isn't a sign that the FF games are past their best.
 
I was a big FF12 fan, Love the way the game worked. The harder battles werent winnable by gambit alone you must have to admit that. Although the easier battles. Yes.

My favourite part of the whole game was the weapon\armour crafting, As you needed to get selected "ingredients" in order to put together weapons as you went. Loved that aspect.

Story and character development was weak, But i felt the gameplay mechanics, The crafting, the battle system were all on the money.

As for FF13, I enjoyed that also. A weak Final Fantasy game, but a decent JRPG
 
FlukeRogi said:
I really enjoyed FFXII. If you didn't find yourself involved in the battles though, don't even look at FFXIII.
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I disagree, Battles were the best part of 13< I only got halfway in 12 before I gave up. The Summons were useless and got one shotted the second you summoned them, and you could breeze through the first 3/4 of the game abusing quickenings.

Plus Vaan, Dont get me started on inverted abs boy.
 
wannabedamned said:
I was a big FF12 fan, Love the way the game worked. The harder battles werent winnable by gambit alone you must have to admit that. Although the easier battles. Yes.

My favourite part of the whole game was the weapon\armour crafting, As you needed to get selected "ingredients" in order to put together weapons as you went. Loved that aspect.

Story and character development was weak, But i felt the gameplay mechanics, The crafting, the battle system were all on the money.

As for FF13, I enjoyed that also. A weak Final Fantasy game, but a decent JRPG
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I found most bosses required me to grind out for a while to be able to kill them. My ps3 corrupted and I lost all saves so I got one off gamefaqs as I wanted to see the end of the story and this new save had all the characters level 90 when mine were only 55ish.
I didn't really craft any weapons. I just found the story uninvolving - I didn't bother with the sidequests in the game.

Danyb001 said:
I disagree, Battles were the best part of 13< I only got halfway in 12 before I gave up. The Summons were useless and got one shotted the second you summoned them, and you could breeze through the first 3/4 of the game abusing quickenings.
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I agree, the summons were pointless and I never even used half the magics available.

Not a bad game, but it doesn't deserve all these 10/10 reviews.
 
I thought FFXII was awful. It had no soul, no player-character connection. Infact I don't even know who the main character was. I tried but I just simply couldn't care less about the events that happened. It was confusing and not paced right, events would happen that took me ages to try and understand and piece together (let alone care about them) until one evening, just after half-way through the game I just turned the PS2 off and that was that. Never again.

It was the worst Final Fantasy there has been IMO... well... until FFXIII came along... and by god FFXIII :eek: Words can't describe how woeful that was, it actually gives me shivers thinking back about it.

I've never known a company/developer to drop from such a personal high regard as they have. The only thing I'm interested from these people anymore is FFXIV and if that turns out to be not as good as I hope, then its game over for me and SE.
 
I liked 12, but for me FF has been in a downward spiral since 9, and 13 was the worst one I've played. A once great IP is now merely average, and Square's strength seems to lie in marketing and graphics these days.

I suspect FF13 versus will be another graphical powerhouse with whizz bang combat and a story written by a 13 yr old manga fan. I'm not a fan of FF anymore.
 
mglover070588 said:
FF13 is sat in the wrapper ready for me to start tomorrow.
I am willing to try it. FF12 has been a let down but at least it was better than FF10-2.

I do hope this isn't a sign that the FF games are past their best.
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<snip> misread what you said there for a second.</snip>

FFXIII - be prepared for a totally cut down/dumbed down experience. Combat for 95% of the time consists of selecting one single option (Auto-Battle). Said it before, but for me, 13 is the single biggest gaming disappointment ever.
 
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the only real similarity is the genre as FFXIII is very linear for the first 10 out of 13 chapters whereas FFXII is the most freeroaming FF games ever which worked in is credit and was a problem at times when you left it for a few days and forgot where you had to go.
 
Although as I said, I didn't like FF12, compared to FF13 it was absolutely amazing. I mean afterall, it did have semblance of a "game" behind it. Free-roaming, MMO style open areas etc.

FF13 just took a series that I thought couldn't really get any worse, and then totally slapped me in the face while it ripped through the fabric of space time. I don't know who their target audience was, but it certainly didn't involve any member of the human race. I mean who the hell could relate with any of that ****? You'd have to be seriously mentally ILL to care or understand anything that spewed out of that garlic stained script.

The best JRPG's of this generation of consoles are Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia.
 
FFXII was the last half decent attempt at a final fantasy game imo, it was nowhere near as good as the likes of FFVII and FFX but at least it wasn't as awful as FFX-2 and FFXIII. At least it actually felt vaguely like a Final Fantasy game.

eggyoke said:
The best JRPG's of this generation of consoles are Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia.
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Those are excellent yes, but i'd rate Valkyria Chronicles above them both, give it a go if you haven't yet.
 
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I think all the signs were there that 13 was going to be.. different. How can 13 be a Final Fantasy when it doesn't even have the Prelude theme? Seriously, what the hell. Shiva was a pair of motorbikes. Leona Lewis pimping it. The kid plotting revenge but not doing anything about it just to stretch out the dire story (I wouldn't have minded the ridiculous amount of cutscenes IF they weren't just there to pad out the game with a going-nowhere story). Having to play for 15 hours before the restraints start to come off and you get some actual choices. Vanille. No towns. Linearity. The whole thing was just bad.

I've always been anti-remakes, especially when it comes to FF. I've always felt a remake would spoil the memories of the classic games. Square Enix show no sign whatsoever of being able to do justice to 7, 8, 9. It would be a trainwreck.

Sorry for derailing this somewhat in a 12 thread. But I just can't resist putting the boot in to 13 :o
 
A lot of people give FFXII a load of stick, but I actually really enjoyed it, its probably the FF game I have enjoyed most since VII.

VIII was too confined, too linear, the plot went from the sublime to the ridicolous, but the characters were awesome.

IX I havent played yet - have it on the PSP but finding hard to adjust considering it seems very cartoony and I'm not sure I like that.

X I hated, with a passion. The story was good, but the game was so linear I felt like it was rushing me through it, and suddenly the game was done with, where was the chance to run around and do stuff on my own? Maybe do a bit of farming? Where were the challenges like Weapon and such? I now understand that they were there, in the form of Dark Aions, but without reading up on FAQ's and such I didnt even know they existed, surely thats a major fault? Great minigame though.

XIII was over far too quickly for me, as other people have said, no towns, too many cutscenes, and by the time the shackles come off the game is practically complete. If it had been more like VII, where you spend your first 10-15 hours following a linear road, and then suddenly, oh my dear god I can explore this whole world... a man can dream.
 
im determined to give this another go but im going to give it a go on the pc emulated as i dont have my ps2 set up at the moment and i only have the 40gb ps3 no so backwards compatability :( (still annoys me they removed this feature)

on the plus side i can now play it at a higher res and correct the reverse camera controls, FMVs can be a pain but it should be ok, im also surprised how easy it was to make an iso of a dvd, ive done PS1 games before to put on the psp but never a ps2 one. also save states are a plus.

im hoping this will improve my opinion of recent FF games as 13 was a dissapointemtn and i liked 10 but hated the stupid caves with the crystal puzzles.

from what i remember also i used to love the leveling grid on XII
 
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