silversurfer said:Ive braked just in time for the line on a set of cameras and a big cloud of smoke drifted past me as I stoppedI realised later the rear brake guide pin had rusted up and it throws everything off I guess
If you crossed the line I'd say they'll do you like the robots they are, any argument or attempt at justice will be taken as insolence![]()
Try and take a positive from it and check your brakes, any reason why you had trouble stopping ?
Chronos-X said:Traffic lights dont just 'turn' red
iirc you get 3/4 of a second of red before it will get you. In london everyone drives through the ambers![]()

Tomsk said:You're supposed to stop your vehicle before the line. This does not mean the front wheels are behind the line, it means the whole vehicle.
Red light cameras take two pictures. One showing the car and traffic lights on red with the car before the line and a second picture a short period later showing the same car across the line and traffic lights still showing red.
The OP's car and registration will be clearly visible if the camera took a picture. If it only took one picture because the OP had stopped (albeit over the line) then it will probably upto a jobsworth to decide whether to prosecute or not.
PMKeates said:Reference to something someone posted in this thread, the delay between amber and red varies depending on the particular traffic light. Many will hold amber much longer than others.
I can think of a fairly "golden" excuse as well:
You were driving towards the lights. Human/animal runs out in front of you and you swerve to avoid, swerve back in to your lane and then brake sharply for the red light - you finish up slightly over the line. If you hadn't of swerved and had braked straight away you'd have most certainly hit the random organism. Therefore person deciding whether you get off or not has to weigh up "Killing someone + stopping before line" vs. "stopping slightly after line". No matter what the computer says, if you're willing to lie I can't imagine anyone not allowing you exonerating circumstances.