Just how rife is CSS hacking on VAC secure servers?

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Just a quick question really. I play a lot of CSS as of late, and some people are really good and people scream omfg h4x at them all the time etc. Some people jerk around and are impossible to hit. Others can seemingly jump up and down and still snipe your head off.

Now im not for one second saying everyone who kills me is a cheater cus im the first to admit im pretty darn rubbish - im just asking out of a server of 20, how many would you expect to be cheating on a public VAC secure server? And how can you prove it?
 
Id bet their are a lot of hackers play, but because they hack doesnt make them good. I love it hen its really obvious that a 10 year old kid is using hacks, but he is useless, the satisfacition of blowing his head off with a five-seven is so nice.

Its not something you can knwo and prove really, unless they are speedhacking everywhere (seen that and its funny to watch). After a while you get a nose for spotting hackers, but its hard to to descible how to notice them.
 
MossyUK said:
Just a quick question really. I play a lot of CSS as of late, and some people are really good and people scream omfg h4x at them all the time etc. Some people jerk around and are impossible to hit. Others can seemingly jump up and down and still snipe your head off.

Now im not for one second saying everyone who kills me is a cheater cus im the first to admit im pretty darn rubbish - im just asking out of a server of 20, how many would you expect to be cheating on a public VAC secure server? And how can you prove it?
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Though I've not played in a while, it's going to be the same for 1.6/S. I'd say from experience, if you have a full 20 player server all day, with players changing regularly, with no admins, you'll get a cheater per hour maybe.

You get a lot of legitimate players out there, that are fantastically good, but with the amount of wannabe pr0s, and know-it-all-admins, they'll instantly moan so much and get annoyed, and therefore the other player must be cheating.

Ususally, a public cheater is easy to spot, but you never know if they've got another clan mate on voice comms letting them know where everybody is. Worst thing I find in more private / pcw is the dodgy rates and configging whores that have an alias script for everything etc.
 
maybe i'm just lucky but i very rarely come across cheaters, i find there is far too many people calling hack when someone just has higher than average skill, people just seem to be paranoid, i have seen some very blatent hacks in my short time playing online but they are far and few between, in my opinion people just dont like to have others get the better of them.
out of 20 people on a server you'd very rarely ever have one hacker in there at least in my experience this is the case, but out of those 20 people, 10 of them would constantly call hack or cheat as soon as they are killed, but hey what can you do about it...

this is my opinion and experiences of it, may be complately different to others.
i just get on and play, i dont moan unless someone is blatently doing something wrong, its not worth the aggro its just a game.
if you are so sure there is a cheater on the serveer and no one is doing anything about it, just leave, go elsewhere, somewhere that is better moderated.
 
thing is, it's pretty easy to HS someone if your rig is set up well. nothing worse than the h4x screamers when you're a few kills above the rest

people with a constant ping of 5 get me. really annoying. there should be a standard enforced.
 
hey i have a constant ping of 5 most of the time :o

more down to my 8meg connection and being right next to my exchange rather than dodgy rates though :p
 
Yer I usually have better pings than most others on the server, not done anything to my rates tho, just a good connex (god bless bulldog :p)
 
been playing CS S on and off since it came out and i seen my first cheater the other day (spead hack), i know CS 1.6 was rife with cheaters but i dont think source is that bad.
 
I don't think CSS is that bad either... i play on a 32 man server all the time, and i haven't come across a hacker as of yet, maybe it's the server im in...
 
vac and vac2 are not updated to catch the latest cheats and it will never be.
1.6 has more hackers than source but for the sake of gameplay i would choose 1.6 any day of any week of any month of any year of any... :p
 
DaveyD. Worst thing I find in more private / pcw is the dodgy rates and configging whores that have an alias script for everything etc.[/QUOTE said:
This greatly annoys me too in css, they shouldn't let you change any rate settings that way everyone would be on the same settings and all equal.
My clan played a match the other night against a clan that was more skilled than us but we couldn't even get 1 hit on them, even when the match was over and they were afk it still took 6 hits in head with ak to kill them!!! thats just unfair really.
Really putting me off playing pcw's.
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DYNA_ROD said:
This greatly annoys me too in css, they shouldn't let you change any rate settings that way everyone would be on the same settings and all equal.
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except default rates are bull **** cl_cmdrate and updaterate r too low
 
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What are you supposed to change the settings too? I have just the default settings on and get a ping around 20-35 which i think is good.

I wouldnt even now how to even begin cheating not alone do it lol

The only thing i change is the cross hairs scale which is good.
 
As I can remember the exact means of the three settings lets simplife it and say they are bandwidth and a frequency of comunication between you and the server. the three are

rate
cl_cmdrate
cl_updaterate

default is 10k 30 30 i think which is stupidly low. However the needs to set these low defaults becase people with slow connections can not support higher settings. For any adsl line they should be 20k 80 80. with a maximum of 25k 101 101 ( cs 1.6 settind btw ). Make them too high and you start to lag. To low and you are unhittable but also you can hit others as easy as you bullets dont registor with the server as often. Set them right and as above and you are nice and hittable ( at first you might die more till you get use to it ) , but also your bullets reg well to so a well aimed head shot will always get you the kill. ;)

Hope this helps ( waiting for some one to disagree :p )

also dont worry to much about ping as long as its aound 40 or below. Its more important for it to be steady.
 
Jack Bauer edit the sweary mate.


And vac2 on source sucks. Does not do its job at all.


And 101 reverts to defults of 30 20 for your information. 100 is max.


One thing I always do is as soon as i go onto the server is ask for tick an change rates accordingly. 80 80 30k on a server with a 33/66 tick will play poorly, 30 20 20k on a 100tick server will play poorly. I use 23k 80 80 most of the time (I'm just different) plays really well on an irish 100tick I go on :)

~Psy
 
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My old cs 1.6 rates. did not no that 101 did not work on css as I use 80.

30 K is too high i think but everyone has there own ideas. As for changing for tick rate I thought that would just confuse people tbh

lol @ my bad english
 
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ALLI said:
thing is, it's pretty easy to HS someone if your rig is set up well. nothing worse than the h4x screamers when you're a few kills above the rest

people with a constant ping of 5 get me. really annoying. there should be a standard enforced.
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yeah the ping hack is gay :mad:
 
Jack Bauer said:
My old cs 1.6 rates. did not no that 101 did not work on css as I use 80.

30 K I thin is too high i think but everyone has there own ideas. As for changing for tick rate I thought that would just confuse people tbh
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hehe, didn't now they worked in 1.6, never played it (well like 4 times, guh)

Learn something new everyday :)

Changing for the server does make a diff, well imo :P
 
to be honest i have tried a hack in mohaa breakthrough, it was a wall hack and it made it show people up as red from what i remember so you could see them through walls, floors etc. I used it for about 10 minutes and i was worse with it as it obscured my view.

I went back to normal playing without it and can kick arse on the breast level, usually getting scores of around 47kills 15 deaths
 
It is interesting to use "hacks" such as wallhack so you can tell where people will come from and how people react. Only on offline mode or your own server though I must add. Also very good to be able to spot hackers when admining a server, whats the point in being admin if you don't know what to look for properly no?

They do make playing ability worse on the user side though, too much to concentrate on at the same sime blah.


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