Just need a little advice on upgrading my sons PC please?

[truewraith]

Please can someone tell me if i need to update my sons pc as its getting groggy and slow and sometimes crashes as i doesn't like the 6600 i put in and apart from the gpu which is fine and i was wondering what mb and cpu would be a good upgrade for this and psu if needed budget is under £500 and low as possible to be fair as money isnt great atm but i want to try my best to keep my son happy and carrying on having fun playing games etc


AMD RX 6600XT
corsair tx 550m
amd ryzen 3 3100 4 core am4
msi b450m mortar max (ms-7b89)
ddr4 3200
win10 64

 

[truewraith]

i currently have a 580 in there atm due to crashes etc with the 6600 in

 

[tamzzy]

I would start with a bios update first of all, and once that's done...a clean windows reinstall.
Not a whole rebuild lol.

 

[mickyflinn]

Ryzen 3100 is weak compared to a 5600 which is 37% in single core in comparison and 2 more cores. You could get the 5700x3d which is one of the fastest gaming CPUs on that platform.

Crashing can be many things do the mentioned above windows reinstall first.

 

[Quartz]

An upgrade to Windows 11 will also help performance if you upgrade the CPU. Microsoft reworked the scheduler to work better with AMD CPUs.

Which CPU cooler do you have? If it's the stock cooler then you will benefit from a decent one if you upgrade the CPU.

To summarise:

Update BIOS
Fit Ryzen 5700X3D
Fit cooler
Clean install of Windows 11.

Job done!

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Eight Core 4.1GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-01799) = £194.99

Total: £228.97 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

You might want to add some thermal paste.

 

[MissChief]

An upgrade to Windows 11 will also help performance if you upgrade the CPU. Microsoft reworked the scheduler to work better with AMD CPUs.

Which CPU cooler do you have? If it's the stock cooler then you will benefit from a decent one if you upgrade the CPU.

To summarise:

Update BIOS
Fit Ryzen 5700X3D
Fit cooler
Clean install of Windows 11.

Job done!

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Eight Core 4.1GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-01799) = £194.99

Total: £228.97 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

You might want to add some thermal paste.

Peerless Assassin comes with a wee tube so no need to add any.

 

[Tetras]

The Ryzen 3100 is the weak point, but I'd honestly start with troubleshooting why you're crashing rather than throwing money at it.

 

[truewraith]

The Ryzen 3100 is the weak point, but I'd honestly start with troubleshooting why you're crashing rather than throwing money at it.

yeah i totally understand and ive tried so much inc updating the bios and the pc is still the same and when i take out the 6600 and put the 580 back in all is fine. so all i can think of is that the mb or cpu dont work well with the card or i need to reinstall win10.

 

[truewraith]

thanks very much for the recommendations, and i will have a look. also i heard that win11 wasnt great for gaming but that was a while ago and when i tried it then i saw so many issues and the layout was awful as im stuck in the old ways of win7 and 10 is ok lol but 11 was like a mac unless that was changeable !

 

[Tetras]

yeah i totally understand and ive tried so much inc updating the bios and the pc is still the same and when i take out the 6600 and put the 580 back in all is fine. so all i can think of is that the mb or cpu dont work well with the card or i need to reinstall win10.

Have you tried forcing the primary PCIE slot to gen 3 or 2?

If you did want to replace everything, maybe something like this for the £500 you said:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B650M D3HP AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03566) = £104.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £82.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 750W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02517) = £84.95
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02420) = £22.99

Total: £475.91 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

or a cheaper alternative:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-12400F 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AR-IN) = £98.99
• 1 x Asus Prime H610M-A D4 CSM - Intel H610 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-00910) = £109.99
• 1 x Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-295-KS) = £52.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-061-AS) = £79.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02420) = £23.00

Total: £364.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

The CPU cooler is optional in both builds (there's one in the CPU box).

I don't recommend buying another AM4 PC or the Intel build above, since at least AM5 is a new platform. They would both be decent upgrades on the Ryzen 3100.

 

[truewraith]

Have you tried forcing the primary PCIE slot to gen 3 or 2?

If you did want to replace everything, maybe something like this for the £500 you said:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B650M D3HP AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03566) = £104.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £82.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 750W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02517) = £84.95
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02420) = £22.99

Total: £475.91 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

or a cheaper alternative:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-12400F 2.50GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AR-IN) = £98.99
• 1 x Asus Prime H610M-A D4 CSM - Intel H610 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-00910) = £109.99
• 1 x Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-295-KS) = £52.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-061-AS) = £79.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02420) = £23.00

Total: £364.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

The CPU cooler is optional in both builds (there's one in the CPU box).

I don't recommend buying another AM4 PC or the Intel build above, since at least AM5 is a new platform. They would both be decent upgrades on the Ryzen 3100.

sorry i didnt get back sooner. thanks very much for this as i will get them all in my basket ready but was going to put windows 11 on first just to see if any different but is there anyway to get rid of the copilot in win11 as ive seen that and i hate it and thats why im on win10 atm.

 

[truewraith]

also not sure how to force the primary PCIE slot to gen 3 or 2? never had to do that when times were more simple well in 2016 lol

 

[tamzzy]

there anyway to get rid of the copilot in win11 as ive seen that and i hate it and thats why im on win10 atm.

I dont think you can?

also not sure how to force the primary PCIE slot to gen 3 or 2? never had to do that when times were more simple well in 2016 lol

Why do you need to force the pcie lanes to gen 2/3 just leave it on auto and let it do it's thing?

 

[Tetras]

also not sure how to force the primary PCIE slot to gen 3 or 2? never had to do that when times were more simple well in 2016 lol

It would be a setting in the BIOS, it probably won't hep, but in some cases it does (for compatibility, or using risers).

 

[truewraith]

i was very thankful for the help and advice, but i wasnt able to buy anything that i wanted due to money issues but now ive come back to buy half is OOS but some is in stock on the £364 basket if thats still a good buy!!

 

[Tetras]

i was very thankful for the help and advice, but i wasnt able to buy anything that i wanted due to money issues but now ive come back to buy half is OOS but some is in stock on the £364 basket if thats still a good buy!!

Can you quote/list the parts you want to buy please? Is easier than trying to read/comprehend an old thread.