Just upgraded from a Q6600 GTX470 to R5 3600X 2080

juno_first · 29 Jul 2019 at 22:07

Year 2007:
Q6600 2.4 to 3.6Ghz, GTX8800, Quad RAID0 4x 80GB
Back in the days when you had to drill holes in the tower for ventilation & water cooling was like huh!

Year 2010:
When the water cooling reached the end of its tether I got an Antec Gaming 900 case + GTX 470 & the old B3 Quad now refused to do over stock 2.4Ghz, so a friend gave me his old G0 Q6600 which I ran until last week at 3.4Ghz on air.

Last week I upgraded to a Ryzen 2400G midi tower thing but was not blown away & concerned that gaming at 4k with eg. a Radeon 590 would be toasty & would not do 4k very well.

Sold my Xbox X with dozens of games & just upgraded to this after being out the game for a decade.
A friend helped me with the list & I researched best I could. I play games & use Lightroom, VBox etc. Perhaps an Intel i5 9600k would have been better? Though I was drawn to Ryzen. The BIOS just boggles me but tried a simple all core overclock to 4.4Ghz which it did at 1.1v & was happy in Prime95. At stock it only boosts to 4.25Ghz even with an auto voltage of 1.4v :O Need to figure it out if anyone can help?
Tried overclocking the 2080 & its happy sitting in Kombuster at 2000Mhz / 7700Mhz -not tried any more as its doing 75c. Though it has a couple of fans blowing onto it undeath

Ryzen 5 3600X 6/12
3600Mhz 8 pack
Asus RTX 2080 DUAL OC
Asus TUF Gaming x570 Plus
Tor Pro full tower
Corsair Hydro H100X
Corsair Professional series HX850 platinum
M.2 Corsair Forc3 MP510 480GB
(Using existing 2x1TB in RAID0)

bakes0310 · 29 Jul 2019 at 22:59

That must be a huge upgrade, keep us updated on how you get on with it. Would like some game benches, you have any that you could compare with your old rig?

~>Dg<~ · 29 Jul 2019 at 23:01

haha deffo big upgrade. :cool:

Minibiker · 29 Jul 2019 at 23:02

Very tidy build mate, atleast we don't see those colourful cables everywhere in the new build

juno_first · 29 Jul 2019 at 23:29

Tried a few games, finally GTA5 over 720p 30fps

Getting my head around the BIOS & overclocking, or actually getting it to boost properly to 4.4.

Lolik · 30 Jul 2019 at 00:08

juno_first said:
Year 2007:
Q6600 2.4 to 3.6Ghz, GTX8800, Quad RAID0 4x 80GB
Back in the days when you had to drill holes in the tower for ventilation & water cooling was like huh!

Year 2010:
When the water cooling reached the end of its tether I got an Antec Gaming 900 case + GTX 470 & the old B3 Quad now refused to do over stock 2.4Ghz, so a friend gave me his old G0 Q6600 which I ran until last week at 3.4Ghz on air.

Last week I upgraded to a Ryzen 2400G midi tower thing but was not blown away & concerned that gaming at 4k with eg. a Radeon 590 would be toasty & would not do 4k very well.

Sold my Xbox X with dozens of games & just upgraded to this after being out the game for a decade.
A friend helped me with the list & I researched best I could. I play games & use Lightroom, VBox etc. Perhaps an Intel i5 9600k would have been better? Though I was drawn to Ryzen. The BIOS just boggles me but tried a simple all core overclock to 4.4Ghz which it did at 1.1v & was happy in Prime95. At stock it only boosts to 4.25Ghz even with an auto voltage of 1.4v :O Need to figure it out if anyone can help?
Tried overclocking the 2080 & its happy sitting in Kombuster at 2000Mhz / 7700Mhz -not tried any more as its doing 75c. Though it has a couple of fans blowing onto it undeath

Ryzen 5 3600X 6/12
3600Mhz 8 pack
Asus RTX 2080 DUAL OC
Asus TUF Gaming x570 Plus
Tor Pro full tower
Corsair Hydro H100X
Corsair Professional series HX850 platinum
M.2 Corsair Forc3 MP510 480GB
(Using existing 2x1TB in RAID0)

Now skirtings looks like in a need of a coat next that eye candy

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Jul 2019 at 00:24

Ryzen 3000 does very well in Lightroom. Batch exports are much faster than the equivalent Intel CPUs it appears!!

arc@css · 30 Jul 2019 at 00:32

Now that should give you multiple times the performance over the last machine! Nice.

DragonQ · 30 Jul 2019 at 07:16

juno_first said:
The BIOS just boggles me but tried a simple all core overclock to 4.4Ghz which it did at 1.1v & was happy in Prime95. At stock it only boosts to 4.25Ghz even with an auto voltage of 1.4v :O Need to figure it out if anyone can help?

Stock voltages being high is ones of the topics that "AMD_Robert" addressed over at Reddit (and is actually meant to be providing an update for later today). It seems to basically boil down to the core voltages varying very often (in order to allow cores to wake/boost quickly, thus improving performance). Most monitoring software wakes up the cores to probe them, which causes the voltage readings to be higher than they actually are (on average). The Stilt (IIRC) did some testing of the chips' voltage-frequency curves and said they were actually very accurate, meaning undervolting is basically not effective.

Try using CPU-Z to check idle voltages, I've seen mine drop to like 0.4 V when there's nothing else open on my machine, but around 0.9-1.0 V is more typical.

Please be aware that these chips have a "clock stretching" feature, which means that if you lower the voltage more than a tiny bit below stock (e.g. your huge undervolt), they will downclock themselves many times per second to compensate for the lack of voltage (instead of older chips which would just crash). What this means is that while your rig may be "stable" at 1.1 V, and your monitoring software may read that your frequency is 4.4 GHz, your performance is almost certainly crippled. Do a benchmark comparison between your 4.4 GHz @ 1.1 V and stock configurations: you'll probably find your manual setting is slower.

P.S. Buy an SSD.

robfosters · 30 Jul 2019 at 08:55

DragonQ said:
Stock voltages being high is ones of the topics that "AMD_Robert" addressed over at Reddit (and is actually meant to be providing an update for later today). It seems to basically boil down to the core voltages varying very often (in order to allow cores to wake/boost quickly, thus improving performance). Most monitoring software wakes up the cores to probe them, which causes the voltage readings to be higher than they actually are (on average). The Stilt (IIRC) did some testing of the chips' voltage-frequency curves and said they were actually very accurate, meaning undervolting is basically not effective.

Try using CPU-Z to check idle voltages, I've seen mine drop to like 0.4 V when there's nothing else open on my machine, but around 0.9-1.0 V is more typical.

Please be aware that these chips have a "clock stretching" feature, which means that if you lower the voltage more than a tiny bit below stock (e.g. your huge undervolt), they will downclock themselves many times per second to compensate for the lack of voltage (instead of older chips which would just crash). What this means is that while your rig may be "stable" at 1.1 V, and your monitoring software may read that your frequency is 4.4 GHz, your performance is almost certainly crippled. Do a benchmark comparison between your 4.4 GHz @ 1.1 V and stock configurations: you'll probably find your manual setting is slower.

P.S. Buy an SSD.

He’s got an SSD.

juno_first · 30 Jul 2019 at 11:23

Thanks yes will do some more testing.
I thought no way it can do all cores 4.4 at 1.1v.
It's not crashed yet, which in old school money means you're not pushing it enough but AMD seem to be pre-clocking these days?

Got a 480gb m.2 & wow.
Yeah need replace the old 1tb mechanical drives even if they're in raid0.

Orange Nexus · 30 Jul 2019 at 12:09

juno_first said:
Thanks yes will do some more testing.
I thought no way it can do all cores 4.4 at 1.1v.
It's not crashed yet, which in old school money means you're not pushing it enough but AMD seem to be pre-clocking these days?

Me thinks that's what differentiate the X from the non X.

MartinPrince · 30 Jul 2019 at 13:14

juno_first said:
Got a 480gb m.2 & wow.
Yeah need replace the old 1tb mechanical drives even if they're in raid0.

You'll find things a fair bit quieter as those old drives made more noise than people appreciate. Would be good if you could go all SSD but that depends on your how spent you are.

pallys · 31 Jul 2019 at 13:52

Lolik said:
Now skirtings looks like in a need of a coat next that eye candy

Too funny lol still laughing

Poneros · 31 Jul 2019 at 19:02

Imo just leave the CPU at stock. You're gonna waste a lot of time trying to get blood out of a stone, they're not really CPUs for tinkerers. OC the memory as best you can and forget about the CPU otherwise and just enjoy!

koooowweeee · 31 Jul 2019 at 22:30

Massive upgrade. Personally I would only get a 8 core so it lasts many years. 6 core will still lasts a few years tho.

nomadd · 1 Aug 2019 at 08:22

juno_first said:
Year 2007:
Q6600 2.4 to 3.6Ghz, GTX8800, Quad RAID0 4x 80GB
Back in the days when you had to drill holes in the tower for ventilation & water cooling was like huh!

Sold my Xbox X with dozens of games & just upgraded to this after being out the game for a decade.

Ryzen 5 3600X 6/12
3600Mhz 8 pack
Asus RTX 2080 DUAL OC
Asus TUF Gaming x570 Plus
Tor Pro full tower
Corsair Hydro H100X
Corsair Professional series HX850 platinum
M.2 Corsair Forc3 MP510 480GB
(Using existing 2x1TB in RAID0)

I'm still waiting for the punchline: "It doesn't feel any faster. Is there a problem, guys?"

nomadd · 1 Aug 2019 at 08:23

..And someone telling you: "It won't feel any faster until you overclock it."

juno_first · 1 Aug 2019 at 18:56

Id be happy if I ever saw the 3600X hit its stock boost clock of 4.4

Hades · 1 Aug 2019 at 19:09

Is the top pic a Swiftech watercooling setup?