Just want some checks on a build

RightOne

RightOne

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Hi guys,

I am new here, but this seems to be the most active forum on PC building so hopefully someone can help.

I am embarking on the bumpy road of building a PC, and I am pretty sure I have it sorted. As a student I am trying to build it for as cheap as possible yet to still have some kick to run photoshop etc.

My planned set up was this:

AMD FX-8350

Asus M5A78L-M USB3 HDMI Motherboard

4GB ram to start off

600w 1938Black storm PSU

A clean 250gb Sata hard drive

Windows 7 64bit HP OEM

A old IDE ODD which I will fit with a IDE to SATA converter (A little cowboy but cheaper than new ODD)

A old uATX case that I have which used to house a Foxconn 945G7MA-8KS2.

This is the bare setup and I will add things like GFX card later. Any recommendations for a good GFX card under 50 pounds? I was thinking the VTX3D 2GB Radeon HD 5450 DDR3 PCI-E 2.1, But will it do the 8350 justice? For now I can use the onboard graphics.

I think my main problem would be airflow in the case. I will probably attach a Arctic f8 fan to purge the heat out and get air moving.

I can post some pictures of the case if needed.

If anybody could just check over the build and highlight any problems or tips then that would be greatly appreciated. :rolleyes: :D

Best wishes for the festive season and new year,

Chris
 
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Traffic_Warden said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x AMD A8-5500 3.20GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD5500OKHJBOX) £77.99
1 x Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (Socket AM3+) DDR3 MicroATX Motherboard £51.98
1 x KFA2 GeForce™ GT620 2048MB GDDR3 64bit DVI/VGA/PCI-E Graphics Card £44.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) £41.99
1 x Swift 500W V2 Silent Power Supply £18.98
1 x TeamGroup Elite 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Single Channel Module (TED34GM1333C901) £16.99
Total : £345.82 (includes shipping : £10.75).



Do you have a maximum spending limit? Then it could be modified to suit.
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Modified? This should be deleted.

The CPU doesnt even fit the mobo. PSU is garbage, RAM is too slow, certainly for the FM2 APU. The GPU is also pants, the FM2 APUs IGP is better on it's own. I think someone's had too much mulled wine ;)

OP you really need to give a budget or it's impossible to advise you properly. Please don't say cheap as poss as that's not any help at all
 
honosuseri said:
Modified? This should be deleted.

The CPU doesnt even fit the mobo. PSU is garbage, RAM is too slow, certainly for the FM2 APU. The GPU is also pants, the FM2 APUs IGP is better on it's own. I think someone's had too much mulled wine ;)

OP you really need to give a budget or it's impossible to advise you properly. Please don't say cheap as poss as that's not any help at all
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Ok ok, you caught me! :D

My bad about the CPU, I was looking between one and another and all this Christmas commotion must have got to me!

The PSU & RAM aren't Garbage, The cheaper you go (so to speak) the less performance you will get. He said cheap!
 
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Under £20 for a 500W PSU.....no thanks fella

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £86.99
1 x Gigabyte F2A85XM-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 micro ATX Motherboard £58.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) £54.98
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £43.99
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI38G213C1K) £39.95
1 x Zalman T1 Mini Tower Case - Black £17.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24B5ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £17.99
Total : £333.48 (includes shipping : £10.50).



That's a complete rig which is also gaming capable. As a student he should be able to cop a deal for the OS and Office. If he wanted to add more gaming grunt a 2nd hand 1GB 460 is £50ish and would add CUDA support, that can be done much later though or when he comes across one.
 
That's a lot more though, it depends how much the budget is. As i said before, the more you spend the more reliability and performance. The PSU above is nice, but there is nothing WRONG with the swift 500w. That's just personal preference to go with a better branded PSU.

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £86.99
1 x Gigabyte F2A85XM-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 micro ATX Motherboard £58.99
1 x BitFenix Shinobi USB3.0 Gaming Case - OcUK Edition £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) £41.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £36.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX16C9T3K2/8X) £35.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24B5ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £17.99
Total : £341.52 (includes shipping : £10.50).

 
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I've just replied on your thread too. If you are asking for advice, why are you dispensing it to someone else? Atleast the spec actually works, never mind the price. I also include an optical drive, as I said it was a complete rig that just needs the OS.

That swift PSU is crap. As it's xmas there aren't as many people posting as normal. Zak will get slammed for suggesting that Swift PSU to you and rightly I am slamming you for suggesting it. I have seen cheapo generic PSUs fail first hand and they will take components with them when they pop.....FACT. The PSU is THE most important part of the rig and you should not skimp, that XFX has a 5 year warranty, there are alternatives for sure but £40 is about right.

There is no budget so I used a cheap disposable case. If he gives me a budget I can do a better spec. If you go and check your thread I used the asgard which is better as atleast you have set a budget to work towards. The RAM you have used is still really too slow for the FM2 socket, there are faster kits available for exactly the same price as that Kingston you have used.
 
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If you are asking for advice, why are you dispensing it to someone else?
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I don't see a problem with it, Both my thread and his are nearly the same, as you have posted your spec on my thread too, so what's wrong with working together to come to an agreement on a reasonable setup? I'll admit i'm not as good as specifying what's best to buy as what you might be, seeing as that is that's what you do mostly.

Happy Holidays to you too.
 
Traffic_Warden said:
I don't see a problem with it, Both my thread and his are nearly the same, as you have posted your spec on my thread too, so what's wrong with working together to come to an agreement on a reasonable setup? I'll admit i'm not as good as specifying what's best to buy as what you might be, seeing as that is that's what you do mostly.

Happy Holidays to you too.
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I've replied back on your thread fella. I dont want you to feel like I'm attacking you. That's not my intent, if the guy is tight on cash its important that he gets good stuff for the right price. It's very difficut to help without a budget, hopefully he will post back with one and after reading our posts he will be better informed to make a decision.

I don't want him wasting money nor do I want you to either.
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for all the replies, and I didn't mean to cause friction in my first ever thread! :eek:

My budget is about 370 pound,-+ 30 pounds, initially, then if the initial build works okay, I will eat into my car restoration fund to buy a graphics card etc.

Some points from me (in good spirit, not meaning to sound cocky)

- I have a case already (if it doesn't work then I will breadboard the whole setup then buy a case)

- I have a 250gb HDD ( I may even get a SSD if it works well)

- I am willing to buy the 8350 because it is *apparently* better than bulldozer. Also, I would like to build a system that is pretty future-proof.

Just a quick question. With the set-up aforementioned by me in the first post, What kind of wattage in the power supply am I looking at?

Also, without changing the processor etc, Will the setup I mentioned work?
 
£19 PSU? No thanks, seeing as it's arguably the most important component.

EDIT: The build you specced will work fine, however you could get something like this:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £161.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - FREE Alpenföhn Civetta Cooler!! £69.98
1 x Seasonic S12II 520W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.98
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24B5ST SATA ReWriter - Black (Retail) £17.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Single Channel Module (TED34GM1600C1101) £17.99
Total : £414.32 (includes shipping : £9.50).



The board includes a cooler, obviously you may need a new case so you could get an i3 instead.
Yes, it is a bit over too.
 
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You caused no friction fella. Warden got some really bad advice on his thread and sadly it got passed onto you.

I'm still not 100% sure what you need but you don't want AMDs bulldozer or piledriver

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £161.99
1 x MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - FREE Alpenföhn Civetta Cooler!! £69.98
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £49.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G160C9K) £34.99
Total : £328.36 (includes shipping : £9.50).



That old mobo is mATX i hope the case can take fullsized ATX mobos. Might as well go 8GB now as it's not much more to be fair. 500W is ample for a single GPU setup, this unit is modular to keep excess cabling at a minimum to improve airflow in the case.

If you could find a 2nd hand 1GB 460 (avoid the 768mb and SE models) they go for ~£50. I have one clocked at 900mhz and it's still very gaming capabubble and also adds CUDA support.

If I have misunderstood your needs please say. If you have questions feel free to ask we are always happy to help
 
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Thanks for the swift responses guys!

Honosuseri, I have been looking at the i5, but I am more of a AMD man myself. I know it seems petty to be sided with one or the other but I have more or less always been with AMD and I quite like them to be honest. Also, I have seen that for things like photoshop, the fx-8350 has a bit of an edge. I would post the source to that statement but it links to competitors.

Just to clear up what I am wanting the build for. I would like the build for photoshop because I am into photography, and I have a AMD v140 single core 2.4ghz in my laptop now so anything will be better than that. Lol. I would also like it for light gaming (Possibly GTA4, Battlefield etc?). I don't play many games but I should like to start up with it.

tl;dr: I would just like the computer to do heavy tasks like Photoshop and light gaming, and I am adamant about the fx-8350 because of the futureproof and value. Unless someone can persuade me otherwise.
 
I'm no intel fan boy dude. I just want you to get the best setup for your cash. I still run the Phenom 555BE in my HTPC, it unlocks to a quadcore but even still this only brings it on par with a sandybridge i3 and intel consumes much less power just to kick AMD whilst they are down.

Rather than me type on and on, make a cup of tea and enjoy our good friend Tiny Tom Logans thoughts


Now whilst this mobo we are suggesting is voltage locked which doesn't make it ideal for overclocking it's not a bad deal really especially with the cooler. All you need do is keep upping the multiplier, watch the temps and find a stable clock speed. It's very very easy, even though you can't alter the voltage I reckon you'll get 4.2Ghz ish depending on your case cooling as well.
 
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FX-8350? Futureproof? The i5 is more futureproof, yes the FX-8350 has more cores but when it comes to upgrading - you have nowhere to go. It's like a dead-end, whereas the i5 can easily be upgraded to a i7 if necessary.
 
LukieBoy007 said:
FX-8350? Futureproof? The i5 is more futureproof, yes the FX-8350 has more cores but when it comes to upgrading - you have nowhere to go. It's like a dead-end, whereas the i5 can easily be upgraded to a i7 if necessary.
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If he used an nvidia GPU that would give him CUDA which would make up for the loss of hyperthreading the i7 gives. No real point going from the i5K to the i7K as an upgrade. The i5K is a great chip and although it lacks hyperthreading the price difference will help him buy a GPU for his gaming habit and as I said if he gets CUDA support the GPU makes a double whammy upgrade :)
 
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