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Just what is NVIDIA up to?

SpellowHouse

SpellowHouse

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I'm still baffled by the way NVIDIA is behaving. With the disastrous launch of the 4080, the un-launch of the 4080 12GB, you would think they would learn their lesson, but subsequent products clearly says not. This is the worst series, by far.

So what on earth are they up to? Surely this can't be a blunder. One bad card is a blunder, a whole range is a plan?

Are they deliberately destroying the upgrade market because they think it has no future, so they expect us only to buy new cards with a new PC? Or is this a huge blunder that they are going to correct with the 5000 series?

Did they really hope that DLSS 3 would sell poor quality cards? Are they using low amounts of RAM as inbuilt redundancy? What do you think?

Like I said at the start, I am still baffled, so I am interested to hear what people think.
 
NVIDIA don't care about Gaming Right now & it shows in their Finances Profit share & launches

Gaming GPU's give them less < 15% of their profit where as A.I, Automotive, Servers is rest

Those above sectors need lot less handle holding & support as their are Enterprise customers not some kid in a bedroom. yes they will need support but different kind supported by real engineers
you don't need to support every game that comes out, just the technologies, the customer does the rest

My prediction is we will only get what they designed for one of those markets going forward & if it works decently that's a bonus.
Driver support for GeForce will drop a little as efforts change. Everything will leverage A.I for Speed their will be positives & negatives. give it 5-8 years and drivers will be A.I generated

the only way NVIDIA gaming survives as we know it (created directly for gaming) is If NVIDIA GeForce spilt of as a different business

when you have stuff like this

Nvidia gains $185bn in value after predicting AI-driven boom in chip demand​

why bother with Gaming? gaming only ever offered Nvidia one thing. bragging rights to show what they can do & to tell their bosses to buy an A1000

now Their so many examples of NVIDIA tech that dont need to happen.

^ Whilst im not an nvidia fanboy, used NVIDIA since the 6600GT & only use their cards now for DLSS/RTX
always gone for speed over brand, & AMD only ever really won in 7970 era ( and 3 of mine died) :(
 
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smogsy said:
NVIDIA don't care about Gaming Right now & it shows in their Finances Profit share & launches
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Pretty much that, they're just keeping gaming hanging around because they may have need of you in the future. Gaming is old dependable, all the rest maybe transient if it works out cheaper for them to build ASICs instead of using General-Purpose Graphics Processing Unit.
 
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Latest rumours have the PS5 Pro in late '24 with twice the GPU power of the current machine. Would suit me just fine, if the PC graphics card space hasn't improved by then. I was waiting until Arrowlake anyway before even considering a PC upgrade, so no worries in continuing to sit things out (the current overpriced junk is making that process easy..)
 
Still planning to get a 5090 on release, totally skipped this Gen, but kinda hoping my 3080TIFE will hold up through the 5 series, depends on how the new games go.
 
I've just put all the horse power in my CPU and upgraded it to a 7950X3D this gen.

I got my 3080OC on release and it does me fine until 5xxx if its worth it.

If we do get that PS5 Pro then it will be a great option for people to switch over or use for future AAA and keep the PC in its current state for everything else.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
I'm still baffled by the way NVIDIA is behaving. With the disastrous launch of the 4080, the un-launch of the 4080 12GB, you would think they would learn their lesson, but subsequent products clearly says not. This is the worst series, by far.

So what on earth are they up to? Surely this can't be a blunder. One bad card is a blunder, a whole range is a plan?

Are they deliberately destroying the upgrade market because they think it has no future, so they expect us only to buy new cards with a new PC? Or is this a huge blunder that they are going to correct with the 5000 series?

Did they really hope that DLSS 3 would sell poor quality cards? Are they using low amounts of RAM as inbuilt redundancy? What do you think?

Like I said at the start, I am still baffled, so I am interested to hear what people think.
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  • Out of touch with the market and the gaming crowd,
  • living in their own world so whatever they do they think is right,
  • trying to market upscaling software as the way forward instead of launching faster graphics cards.
  • then charging more for slower cards for more profit :o.

Pretty much sums up this company for the past year or so.


And to top it off, AMD decides to follow suit and be the sheep they are instead of scoring open goals.. because you know they didn't learn from price fixing lawsuit back in 2008.
 
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jonjonson said:
I don't see it getting any better, not with them focusing less on games. Hopefully Intel can manage to do something.
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You'd have thought we would be looking and putting hope into Intel for the potential future of the gaming market. I'm surprised they joined the sector tbh, I'd have thought that'd also do what Nvidia are and invest resources into AI chips.
 
Jay85 said:
  • Out of touch with the market and the gaming crowd,
  • living in their own world so whatever they do they think is right,
  • trying to market upscaling software as the way forward instead of launching faster graphics cards.
  • then charging more for slower cards for more profit :o.

Pretty much sums up this company for the past year or so.


And to top it off, AMD decides to follow suit and be the sheep they are instead of scoring open goals.. because you know they didn't learn from price fixing law suit back in 2008.
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I mentioned this in another thread. AMD could land grap a big share of the market if the undercut Nvidia prices significantly. Which should be very possible.
 
gjbf1 said:
I mentioned this in another thread. AMD could land grap a big share of the market if the undercut Nvidia prices significantly. Which should be very possible.
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Yeah but they won't, they only want to follow what Nvidia does and not beat them. It's an utter shame... imagine only ever wanting to achieve second place even when first prize is within reach.
 
Jay85 said:
Yeah but they won't, they only want to follow what Nvidia does and not beat them. It's an utter shame... imagine only ever wanting to achieve second place even when first prize is within reach.
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I know. It's unbelievable really, and so frustrating. They could win this generation without even having the fastest card.
 
SpellowHouse said:
So what on earth are they up to? Surely this can't be a blunder. One bad card is a blunder, a whole range is a plan?
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The ADA cards were made and priced to sell ampere then once ampere had all gone Nvidia could lower prices / beef up the spec but due to AI Nvidia don't care about low sales anymore and are funnelling wafers into AI products.
 
nomadd said:
Latest rumours have the PS5 Pro in late '24 with twice the GPU power of the current machine. Would suit me just fine, if the PC graphics card space hasn't improved by then. I was waiting until Arrowlake anyway before even considering a PC upgrade, so no worries in continuing to sit things out (the current overpriced junk is making that process easy..)
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I'd take those rumours with a grain of salt. To be double the performance, you are looking at a 3090 equivalent GPU that would need to use about half the power and cost about 1/3 of the 4070 Ti.
 
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