JW-P45D2-Extreme

kenofstephen · 2 Jun 2008 at 15:50

OcUK value?? will it be?? :rolleyes:

zero-one · 2 Jun 2008 at 18:07

That's a nice looking board - i assume the finished version will have all solid caps? I really like the cooling system. Nothing too fancy except the heatpipes.

J&W and OcUK seem to have different ideas how to market these boards. You guys make excellent high end overclocking boards and OcUK market them as value. This is a bit odd, to say the least.

Talrinys · 2 Jun 2008 at 18:17

Price on these, potential purchase for me?

Ace Modder · 2 Jun 2008 at 19:18

OcUK market as "value" as I assume that people would prefer a bigger named manufacturer if they were to spend more money on a board?

Maybe I'm wrong though

pastymuncher · 2 Jun 2008 at 19:29

Talrinys said:
Price on these, potential purchase for me?

More importantly, will they ever materialise? The much hyped X38 board which was eventually ditched and then the equally hyped X48 which is still not on sale. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice to see another mobo manufacturer in the market. It's just that they are taking so long to get the product out. Hopefully the length of time in coming to market means that there should be no buggy bios's.

Please stop putting heatpipe monstrosities on the boards. Whats wrong with a quality Thermalright type NB neatsink that the likes of DFI supplies?

RizlaKing · 2 Jun 2008 at 19:48

Yeah i gotta be honest i would actually like to be able to buy one of these boards not just look at them. But i will buy into it again Ken so will a Tuniq tower fit this puppy ok ??.

Azza · 2 Jun 2008 at 19:52

How does this compare to the X48 board, overclocking wise...?

kenofstephen · 3 Jun 2008 at 15:58

zero-one said:
That's a nice looking board - i assume the finished version will have all solid caps? I really like the cooling system. Nothing too fancy except the heatpipes.

J&W and OcUK seem to have different ideas how to market these boards. You guys make excellent high end overclocking boards and OcUK market them as value. This is a bit odd, to say the least.

yes, it will be fully solid capacitors

kenofstephen · 3 Jun 2008 at 16:03

pastymuncher said:
More importantly, will they ever materialise? The much hyped X38 board which was eventually ditched and then the equally hyped X48 which is still not on sale. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice to see another mobo manufacturer in the market. It's just that they are taking so long to get the product out. Hopefully the length of time in coming to market means that there should be no buggy bios's.

Please stop putting heatpipe monstrosities on the boards. Whats wrong with a quality Thermalright type NB neatsink that the likes of DFI supplies?

look at the % of completion and you know the product is ok for shipping very soon, as I know, X48 has been selling in other regions for about 3 weeks already, please check that with OcUK instead of me.

for the heatpipe, what's wrong with it? I was stressing it in computex for a whole day at 4.5ghz today and passed the blend level 10 orthos test. if you think that is still not good, you may need water cooling or something more extreme for the bridges.....

kenofstephen · 3 Jun 2008 at 16:05

Azza said:
How does this compare to the X48 board, overclocking wise...?

for Dual Cores, P35 and X38 and X48 and P45 all performed very closely.
to differentiate, I see differences only on Quad Core CPUs.

and one bad thing for P45 is its compatibility with RAMs,
not very friendly at the moment. let's look at more reports from various users later.

kenofstephen · 3 Jun 2008 at 16:08

RizlaKing said:
Yeah i gotta be honest i would actually like to be able to buy one of these boards not just look at them. But i will buy into it again Ken so will a Tuniq tower fit this puppy ok ??.

I have the Tuniq

, I may give it a try when I finished my business trip.

zero-one · 3 Jun 2008 at 17:57

Thanks for the replies Ken. It's good to have someone from J&W on the forums.

I'm thinking that either this or the X48 could be my next purchase to pair with a couple of HD4870's.

WJA96 · 3 Jun 2008 at 18:21

pastymuncher said:
Please stop putting heatpipe monstrosities on the boards. Whats wrong with a quality Thermalright type NB neatsink that the likes of DFI supplies?

DFI only actually use that cooler on the LT intermediate level board. The expensive board (UT) has a full Northbridge/Southbridge/PWM heatpipe assembly, and a big external heatpipe too. The chipsets on these X48 boards run really hot and you do seem to need a big cooler. I have to use a fan or a water-block on my DFI X48 as it's not good enough to run passively when you crank up the various voltages.

It will be very interesting to see the temperatures in comparison between a passively cooled DFI LT-X48-T2R and an X48D2-Extreme with a heavy overclock on each. Basically, the DFI can't really hack it passively.

It really depends how much emphasis you place on chipset cooling though, and how much on aesthetics. I don't have a case window, and I don't really care about how a board looks in the case, but I know loads of users do.

RizlaKing · 3 Jun 2008 at 18:31

"and one bad thing for P45 is its compatibility with RAMs,"

Thats a bit worrying as i already have the ram for my new build. Is it all rams Ken or specific type like ddr2 or ddr3 ??.

pastymuncher · 3 Jun 2008 at 19:33

The biggest problem with these heatpipes is that most of the boards with the most OTT heatpipes are aimed at the enthusiast, most of them use high end air, water or even more extreme cooling for the cpu. These heatpipes seem to be designed for use with the Intel stock cooler as they are gathered around the cpu socket. If you use any of the above methods of cooling then these heatpipes are going to get no direct air cooling unless you bodge a fan over them. My rig has custom water and i have watercooled the NB as well. It was either that or leave the heatpipe assembly on and stick some fans on them which seems pointless when my watercooling is so quiet. The heatpipes on the P5E are not even copper, just copper coloured. It's just a shame that motherboard cooling has gone in this direction and these heatpipe assemblies are getting bigger and more outrageous (MSI take note). What's wrong with a decent active (but quiet) heatsink for the NB and SB?

Talrinys · 3 Jun 2008 at 21:11

Remember that the P35 chipsets are 65nm instead of the 90nm P35 and X38/48 motherboards, so they should require a bit less cooling for the same job

BUFF · 4 Jun 2008 at 09:41

you would have thought but I've read that they run hotter.

WJA96 · 4 Jun 2008 at 10:48

Talrinys said:
Remember that the P35 chipsets are 65nm instead of the 90nm P35 and X38/48 motherboards, so they should require a bit less cooling for the same job

If they were doing the same job then you would think so, yes. But they are actually rated to run faster, and so there seems to be very little drop in temperatures from P35 to P45, and X48 is very hot indeed.