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Kaveri A10-7860K
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Depends what your budget is, currently an Intel i5 or i7 is the way to go for gaming especially if you are going to be playing games dependant on a single core only.
If I were you I'd wait to see what AMD's Ryzen offers when it is released in Q1 2017 then once we have real-world tests, benchmarks and the price tag make your decision based on that.
If I were you I'd wait to see what AMD's Ryzen offers when it is released in Q1 2017 then once we have real-world tests, benchmarks and the price tag make your decision based on that.
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I'd imagine Kaveri A10-7860K would be ok for playing those games however if you were going to use the built-in GPU which is a variety of the R7 chip I believe performance wouldn't be great compared to a dedicated graphics card.
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Max Payne 3 is actually quite taxing on hardware IIRC.
It would be surprisingly capable, I have an old a10-5700 in my daughters PC and was using it recently having damaged my gaming PC with a cup of tea (dead 3770k 
) and wanted to test parts, with a radeon r290 inside this thing flew along and infact I was quite surprised how capable the iGPU was when I had a little tinker before hand to see how stable her system was before testing my parts in it, if you manage expectations with reasonable settings of course, the newer iGPU in the chip you are looking at should be much faster if you pair with fast RAM.
I am now running a lowly i3 whilst on the look out for a replacement high end 1155 CPU and its a lot slower than the a10 about 30% in gaming on same r290s.
I think the biggest problem I experienced with her machine was CPU throttling when it got hot but I did overclock it to 4.4Ghz and it was running on a stock cooler
) and wanted to test parts, with a radeon r290 inside this thing flew along and infact I was quite surprised how capable the iGPU was when I had a little tinker before hand to see how stable her system was before testing my parts in it, if you manage expectations with reasonable settings of course, the newer iGPU in the chip you are looking at should be much faster if you pair with fast RAM.I am now running a lowly i3 whilst on the look out for a replacement high end 1155 CPU and its a lot slower than the a10 about 30% in gaming on same r290s.
I think the biggest problem I experienced with her machine was CPU throttling when it got hot but I did overclock it to 4.4Ghz and it was running on a stock cooler
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A useful site for APUs and integrated graphics benchmarks is gamegpu.com . Set to UK English, scoll through their games and have a look for pages that say APU rather than GPU.
If you have the space in your build, I'd seriously look at separate CPU and GPU setups though. i3 6100 - 6320 if you have the money (don't get these without a dedicated GPU). If you're really on a tight budget, Athlon 860k, 870k, 880k (these don't have a built-in GPU) might be worth a look.
You could also take a look at tomshardware's desktop GPU hierarchy to get an idea of where things fit it. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html.
The R7 GPU in an A10-7860k is around R7 240 to 250 in terms of performance. Broadly speaking - if you set resolution to 720p ish, you 've got something that's capable of running cross platform games of the era about as well (maybe better) as an Xbox 360 or PS3. At 1080p you'll be scraping the barrel settings wise and most games of that era will be on low settings. In today's titles a dedicated GPU will be needed to make most of them playable.
If you have the space in your build, I'd seriously look at separate CPU and GPU setups though. i3 6100 - 6320 if you have the money (don't get these without a dedicated GPU). If you're really on a tight budget, Athlon 860k, 870k, 880k (these don't have a built-in GPU) might be worth a look.
You could also take a look at tomshardware's desktop GPU hierarchy to get an idea of where things fit it. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html.
The R7 GPU in an A10-7860k is around R7 240 to 250 in terms of performance. Broadly speaking - if you set resolution to 720p ish, you 've got something that's capable of running cross platform games of the era about as well (maybe better) as an Xbox 360 or PS3. At 1080p you'll be scraping the barrel settings wise and most games of that era will be on low settings. In today's titles a dedicated GPU will be needed to make most of them playable.
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Depends on the load you expect to put on the chip whether a fan will be helpful/needed. It would be useful to have a low speed quiet fan in case your usage changes or to set a threshold temp where the fan will spin quietly on the rare occasion the cpu is under heavy load and sends temps very high. Of course if you are sure you don't want any fans it is doable too. Need a large enough heatsink. Helpful to have a case with appropriately located vents and make sure to orientate HS fins for convection to generate a little airflow.
On low tdp cpu's; regular tdp cpu's will throttle just as well as low ones. The only real difference you experience is that the low tdp cpu's have lower max clockspeeds.
On that basis I wouldn't bother going for low tdp chips unless you really just want to install and leave it. If you are comfortable with lowering the cpu multiplier in the bios, from my recollection this should automatically lower voltage applied at full load for the lower max clock (hopefully someone can confirm as I'm away from my PC to check).
On low tdp cpu's; regular tdp cpu's will throttle just as well as low ones. The only real difference you experience is that the low tdp cpu's have lower max clockspeeds.
On that basis I wouldn't bother going for low tdp chips unless you really just want to install and leave it. If you are comfortable with lowering the cpu multiplier in the bios, from my recollection this should automatically lower voltage applied at full load for the lower max clock (hopefully someone can confirm as I'm away from my PC to check).
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