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Mistakingly included this in someone elses thread. So starting afesh.
Quick spec:-
E5200 2.2 50GHz (800FSB)
Asus P5K EPU Intel P35 PCI-E DDR2
Antec Sonata III Piano
and other parafinalia LOL 2 case fans and a HDD caddy in a 5 1/2 bay with fan inside. Silence could be golden.
Important bit ~ 2x ati Radeon 4850 512 MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI.Graphics cards. Configured in crossfire. Didn't like the temps with the stock glaziers as one card heats the other in the PCIE slots(hot air rises). So beautiful sculptured an engineered "Accelero Twin Turbo" Good price juggled around like another chap on another thread (experience with removing procesors, I knew adhesion would be strong) The socket and plug on the board and the stock fan is smaller than my knew set up. Got round that by using a Zalman simple fan controller and the headers on the mobo. Would be more proffesional to use the card control and "Asus Smart Doctor." Oh and the wires use a different colour code. Can't assume pin for pin with £220 + worth of cards. Thanks if any one has ideas ~ I emailed Artic but no reply forthcomming. Scoured the manufacturers involved to no avail. For info addicted to flight sims FSX and a freebie Flightgear.org < thats a big challenge using 64 bit Vista. Cosidering returning 32 two simultaneous operating systems a bit ambition for a 59 year old rookie LOL:cool:

P.S. I don't want fixed speed connections to molex feeds I like silence when not loaded...... the graphics cards that is.
 
I love humour....remember I'm getting my head round the fundamntals and I have "a fixed income" as I am retired. At present watercooling is for my Ford Focus. Seriously my issue was swapping the stock air cooler plugs for maybe transfering them onto the the two arctic accelero's leads. Point taken and I know what you mean. Your my first reply on all forums apart from "THE FIRM" !!
wink ~ wink Cheers
We're talking 4 pin with different colours and no real schematic or line diagram
 
On a side note, your rig is severely compromised. You do realise that your second 4850 is being strangled by the 4x pci-e slot that it's in? Please don't tell me that the E5200 is running at stock as well? That will bottleneck a crossfire setup too.
 
Thanks for developing this thread but I hate to say it again I am on a learrning curve equivalent to rotating an airbus at Heathrow. I'll give you my full spec :-
Vista Home Premium 64 -Bit
Intel PentiumDual-CoreE5200 "LGA775 Core 2" 2.50GHz (800FSB)
ASUS 5PK EPU Intel P35(Socket775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Asus ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI?HDMI(PCI-Express) X 2
Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache OEM (HD502lj)
Samsung SH-S223Q/BEBN 22x DVD_+RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe
Rewriter.
I am at the early stages of over clocking the E5200 and doing that with caution, in fact only reading about it. Didn't quite understand the reference to throttled PCIE slot. I only have 2?
 
Yeah, what he means is that the second PCI-E slot on a P35 motherboard only has four lanes, as opposed to the full 16 lanes that the primary slot has. That means that there's really no point in the second card, because it can't communicate with the rest of the PC fast enough :(

Also, to get the most out of a CrossFire setup, you really need a fast CPU clocked above 3.2ghz :) And a monitor at 1680x1050 resolution or above, as below the gains are very small.

Regarding your first post - you want to run the fans on the GPUs at lower speed when you're not gaming, this correct? You can do it using RivaTuner (a very good application - will practically do everything with your graphics card other than make it do the washing up) - you can set fan profiles that increase the fan speed when the GPU temperature rises, and vise versa.

Hopefully that's helpful - fire any questions you have in this direction :)
 
The new graphics coolers have no direct connection to the 4850's card. The header used is the power fan connector. Which as far as I know is independant of any motherboard software control. This header I've shared with the exhaust and goes to the Asaka All-In-One. Monitoring the temp of the CPU heatsink base just for info-[can be done on the Ati software]Split lead off that mobo header going to the Zalman and two graphic card coolers. Simple to adjust by the out the case rheostate but auto would be golden !!
The case intake goes to sys 2 header and driven by ati software.
I know its convoluted solution but I hope your advice will do the job. I have a spare speed channel on the All-In -One. The other temp sensor clocks the Hard Drive.
If you follow the script above its done essentially for noise reduction:cool:
The reason for the All-In-One was to give independant contol on the exhaust. The Cpu and Exhaust can pull and push slightly giving exagerated pressure noise. Also released the intake fan of the interaction of these two enablimg mobo software control.
 
Directed to Reflux :-
I glean from what your saying I need a new motherboard. To utilize the crossfire fully the P35 chipset is not suitable what chipset is, or motherboard suitable. Will a 2.5 overclock sensably to 3.2 or is an upgrade applicable there. Finally if I could get a sensable connection plug to the gaphics card from the cooler don't want to revert to stock to use the Riva Tuner software. A workround would be better and less wasteful. If not automated I will stay with the manual rheostat. I'm beginning here to 'scrape' too much.
I have to say when I got crossfire working I had a suspicion little or no improvement on just one card. The board spec wasn't obvios nor the original advice given although crossfire was a option afterthought that I fitted quicker than intended.
I am not a true gamer but simulator enthusiast.
Thanks again
 
Your E5200 should overclock to 3.2ghz quite easily.

If you're dead set on using 2x4850's in crossfire then you need either an X38 or X48 chipset motherboard. P35 and P45 aren't fast enough.

Personally I'd forget the crossfire and sell one of the 4850's. Or sell both and buy a faster single card.
 
Thanks Chong Warriorforrr the e5200 info. I must admit my affair with the 4850'S ~because of thier attractive profile in more ways than one is becomming a tad costly ~ and if logic reigned I was comming to that conclusion myself. But sometimes our persuit of perfection we want clouds the issue. Cheers
 
This is comming down to the wire now. And just needs endorsement by one of you good guys. The mobo to give me X48 chipset allowing the utilization of my 2 x 4850's :-
Asus Rampage Formula Intel X48 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard£195.49 inc VAT


The other option 4850 Asus ATI Radeon HD 4850 1024MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) ~ using one slot and the same as two in x fire (memory that is)
£142.59 inc VAT
or 4870
XFX ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £164.99 inc VAT This Weeks offer.The cost reflects the better of the two single card options but no doubt you can tell me. Many thanks for the input of those involved:cool:
 
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