Key differences between MotoGP bikes and road bikes

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I don't follow MotoGP (or any bike racing for that matter), but to the untrained eye the race bikes they use very closely resemble the road bikes you see out and about.

Clearly there are obvious differences like slick racing tyres and they wont have to conform to road regulations regarding noise and emissions but under the skin what are the main differences and what exotic technologies would you find on a MotoGP bike that you wouldn't come across on a road bike?
 
motoGP bikes are bespoke there is nowt on them you would find on a road bike, Engine ,frame, wheels the lot.....

it's like saying a road bike is just like a push bike as it has two wheels.


edit : eg the engine(most) run variable valve timing, pneumatically controlled, and not just 2 settings like on cars but fully controllable, for lift and duration

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Are the frames carbon fibre? How do the wheels differ, just much lighter? I'm not being thick I'm just interested :)

Do the engines rev really high like F1 engines? I'm not sure I'd want to sit on something that was revving to 20,000rpm between my legs :o
 
There is probably the same similarity between a Moto GP bike and say a YZFR1, as between a F1 car and a Nissan micra.

They share virtually nothing other than both having two wheels, although various bits of Moto GP technology "inspire" bits of road bikes, so to speak.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Desmosedici#GP10

This is Ducati Marlboro's entry for the 2010 MotoGP season. It should give you a rough idea of the extreme differences between an average bike and MotoGP machines.

For example, the well-known Hayabusa pushes 200hp from a 1350cc engine and weighs 220kg whereas the GP10 pushes 230hp from an 800cc engine and weighs only 150kg.

This does not factor in the insane difference in handling, braking or transmission between the two.
 
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bullit in head said:
motoGP bikes are bespoke there is nowt on them you would find on a road bike, Engine ,frame, wheels the lot.....

it's like saying a road bike is just like a push bike as it has two wheels.


edit : eg the engine(most) run variable valve timing, pneumatically controlled, and not just 2 settings like on cars but fully controllable, for lift and duration

bullit
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as far as i know none use variable valve timing, most do run pneumatically controlled valves, bar the ducati which uses cams to open and close the valves
 
For a start MotoGP bikes have over 200bhp for a start!

Everything is customised on them, the fram, the suspension, the engine itself, the engine tuning, sprockets, slipper clutches, dampers, the works etc... they have engine settings they can change at a flick of a button. They are a lighter too which makes a big difference.
 
Are you thinking of Superbikes?

Superbikes *are* much more closely related to road going bikes, my understanding is that Moto GP is the bespoke, Formula 1 of the bike world, whereas Superbikes are the modified road bike, touring cars of the bike world.
 
Bennah said:
Arn't these suppose to be the road going version of the Casey Stoner's bike?

http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2008/FamilyPage.jhtml?family=DesmosediciRR

Only 1500 made and they are £40k+!
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Yep I have one in my garage :) Horrible bike to ride on the roads though, suspension and chasis don't even start communicating until you're already doing stupid speeds.

Also have a 1098R which again is a limited run but that one is the actual WSB bike that they race, 197bhp whereas the RR is well over 200.

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I can't find the words... ok here's one: Amazing.

I've been following the MotoGP a lot lately, and also wasn't quite sure on the differences, I thank you all for the clarity of mind I now possess as regards this subject matter.
 
The Key differences is everything :p

As said they are a prototype, hell even a lot of the stuff on the WSK bikes you probably wont ever find on 99% of road bikes.

The Desmo RR is a lovely piece of machinery but even that aint no matter what they tell you lol, MotoGP bikes cost millions, just other bikes branch of from the designs like the RR, New R1 bits and the new RSV4.
 
Saw 2 1098R's parked in between 2 599GTB's outside the Hilton in Singapore on Sunday! They look awesome, pics dont do them justice.
 
olv said:
I don't follow MotoGP (or any bike racing for that matter), but to the untrained eye the race bikes they use very closely resemble the road bikes you see out and about.

Clearly there are obvious differences like slick racing tyres and they wont have to conform to road regulations regarding noise and emissions but under the skin what are the main differences and what exotic technologies would you find on a MotoGP bike that you wouldn't come across on a road bike?
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MotoGP Bike = F1 for Bikes = NO similarity to a road bike whatsoever!

Although - the principals are essentially the same and many innovations for road bikes come from these hybrid machines - a MotoGP bike is performance of all components at the very highest level - hence the cost and expertise needed to build one!

khushy
 
khushy said:
MotoGP Bike = F1 for Bikes = NO similarity to a road bike whatsoever!

Although - the principals are essentially the same and many innovations for road bikes come from these hybrid machines - a MotoGP bike is performance of all components at the very highest level - hence the cost and expertise needed to build one!

khushy
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Believe me, i'm not trying to be funny, but why did you feel the need to answer this again, when people have already given a perfectly good explanation?:D
 
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Bennah said:
Arn't these suppose to be the road going version of the Casey Stoner's bike?

http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2008/FamilyPage.jhtml?family=DesmosediciRR

Only 1500 made and they are £40k+!
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there only really made to look like stoner's, i bet if you check stoner's bike it wont have even 1 part that is on the road bike
no way you could make a true rep for just £40k when stoner's will cost a million

even in super bike the bikes only look the same, most of the time the only parts that are the same are frame and engine cases the rest is all race
it only looks the same on the road bikes
you couldnt even get a true rep of a WSB for just 40k
its all about it looks the same in truth thats all it is looks
 
khushy said:
MotoGP Bike = F1 for Bikes = NO similarity to a road bike whatsoever!
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There is one key difference. There is no road car that looks or sounds anything like an F1 car, whereas an R1/fireblade etc do at least have a passing resemblance, especially the R1 in Fiat race rep colours.
 
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