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Killed CPU :( New 3570k or 3770k?

new boy

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I killed my 3570k by trying to de-lid it with a razorblade :( make a couple of nics in the pcb, enough to see the copper beneeth the green stuff. Put it all back together and now when I turn the pc on, the fans spin, but nothing is displayed on the screen, and it doesnt boot into windows cos the fans never back down like they normally do in windows. So it looks like I broke it :(

So now, I'm obviously in the need of a new CPU (which I can confirm I will not be trying to de-lid). I bought the i5 3 years ago or so, because then, nothing was making use of more than 4 threads. Now, there are a few games that the i7 pulls ahead right? As I'm already going to have the shell out the £150 odd for nothing but my stupidity, I'm wondering if its worth the extra £100 to make it an upgrade?

Thoughs?

And yeah, I'm an idiot, you dont have to tell me...
 
cheesyboy said:
Has anyone ever made a mess of the vice method for delidding?

I've heard plenty of tales of the razor method going wrong, yet people still favour it.

Unlucky, OP. At least it was an old CPU, though - you got 3 years out of it.

Get a used i7. You get them for around £150 now, I believe.
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Bought some razor blades (proper shaving ones) for £2. Asked around if anyone had a vice I could borrow, but couldnt find one, so took my £2 blades to my £160 CPU instead of buying a £30 vice lol.

I'll probs buy a used 2600k as suggested, as its only about £15 more than a used 3570k. Used 3770ks are not cheap at all!
 
ALXAndy said:
Those sorts of razor blades are very flexible, which is why you probably cut into the surface. I would rather have used a new, still slightly oily Stanley type blade.. Still, what's done is done and trust me, I've made a few booboos over the years :D

2600k is a fine chip and they're really starting to shine of late. More so now than when they were new. It should clock bloody well too, they're usually an easy 4.8ghz.
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Yeah, it was super flexible. I read that a "utility blade" was too thick though, and a razor blade was the way to go :confused:

like you say, its done now. At least I'll have a new (older) toy to play with. estimated delivery is friday - monday. Dont really know what I'm going to do with the week. Might have to spend time with the mrs or some crap :S
 
wazza300 said:
3770k's aren't bad

most will manage 4.4ghz-4.5ghz without a delid
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True my 3570k would do 4.4Ghz. It was a turd though and wanted all the volts in the world to get there though. would have cost me nearly twice the price to pick up a 3770k over the 2600k...

I'm happy with the 2600k. I'm still a little worried that PCIE-2 is gunna bite me in the ass in a couple of years, but we'll see.
 
Mynight said:
Yeah fishing line would be better. Don't want it minty now do we :D.

To be fair I would have thought it would work even without solvent. As soon as you get under a corner it should work fine.

If I had a cpu that's not soldered I'd try it.

Unless if anyone knows are the old school Intel core duos are soldered? I've got about 6 of them floating round so if happily sacrifice one for research. E8400/E5300to be precise.

Actually even if it is soldered it's only the glue on the ihs that matters isn't it? Obviously if it is soldered it will kill the chip but still proves theory.
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they are soldered. dunno if glued as well.
 
I got my 2600k now.

It doesnt seam like the best clocker at first glance.

4.5Ghz @ 1.35v failed prime95. Any other settings worth tweaking? PLL I only have an option for +0.1v which seams like a lot...

4.4Ghz is looking good so far @ 1.328v. But thats pretty high volts for the clock.
 
wazza300 said:
You simply might need more vcore

Can help you with that ram though

Try 2133mhz and 1.55v dram voltage,9.10.10.21.1t timings that's what I'm running
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Thanks. I had a nice OC on the ram when I was running the 3750k. But after the bios flash and new CPU, I'm more interested in the CPU atm.

MOAR vcore is cool. I'd like to have a profile saved for a sensible OC though, so thats what I'll aim for first, somthing under 1.35v.

Whats the thoughts of a voltage range that will almost definatly last 3 years. 1.45v sound about right? dont worry, I wont sue lol.
 
wazza300 said:
I wouldn't go above 1.4v for 24/7

Are you adjusting the vrm response?I forget what kts called now on Asus without looking
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Hmmm, IDK what that could be. I've changed LLC, thats about the only other setting I've touched apart from turning some things to normal.
 
Thanks for that.

I've managed to get my voltage down to 1.312v @ 4.4ghz now. (or at least, its looking promicing, havnt finished stress testing yet.)
 
new boy said:
Meh, grabbed a used 2600k.

At least I cant be tempted to do it again now lol.
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Bump.

Soooooooooo.

Here we are 6 months later, got board of the 2600k, sold it, got a 4790k.

CPU is great, a nice clocker, however, I am rather temperature limited...

I'm... Tempted.

Did anyone else actually use the dental floss method on a non soldered chip and have it live to post the tale? Defiantly wont be using the razor method again if I do decide to do it lol.

EDIT

Might buy a few of those pentium chips to have a practice on as it appears they are not soldered.

You can literally get two E5200 CPUs delivered for less than the price of a pint of Guinness down my local lmao.
 
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I've purchased a couple of practice CPUS for the aforementioned beer money. Gunna try the vice only method first as looking at the YouTube videos it looks by far the most sensible method.
 
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