Kinectless Xbox One announcement today.

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Only advantage apart from sales!

Like most people, I don't have shares in Sony (or MS) so whether they shift 2 million units, 4 million units or 400 million units doesn't really affect me. People are far too bothered about the financial success of these massive corporations that would gladly throw you beneath a bus if it was profitable for them.

Also, for a games console I would say superior image quality was a pretty important advantage to have!

Sure it is, but it's not the only thing that matters despite what so many seem to believe.

Shall we ignore the additional FPS and graphical effects in a lot of multi plats then?

In a thread about the Xbox One going Kinectless? Yes.
 
The number of exclusives is crap on both consoles at present, not overly surprising for "new" consoles as it happens every time. Only Nintendo go out their way to try and have a good number of exclusives within a launch window imo. 360 and PS3 were no different.

On the games front for XB1/PS4 there's little in it, I have both and to be honest there is no "killer" exclusive on either console at present.

lol.

Forza , Dead Rising , Titanfall. There's 3 exclusive AAA titles right there.
 
lol.

Forza , Dead Rising , Titanfall. There's 3 exclusive AAA titles right there.

I never said zero, but well done for pointing out 3 games for which the PS4 has rough equivalents (Infamous SS, Killzone etc) in terms of review scores. 6 months on from launch and you can turn up 3, it certainly doesn't make me jump with excitement.

Where is the killer exclusive for either console? Titanfall was supposed to be XB1s, it's not called Titanfail for no reason and didn't do much for sales. Infamous SS was supposed to be PS4s, again hasn't set the world alight despite good reviews.

Or are you actually suggesting you're happy with the amount of games available on XB1?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11zf7Y5tUbM

for people that think resolution doesn't matter watch that (on the highest res available) even on a 1080P screen you can appreciate the higher quality of 4K (UHD).

that looks amazing but dont quite see the point tho. what % of the worlds population can run 4k properly and most probably not on the ps4 or xone. however on MY living room tv both at 720p and 1080p its hard to distinguish the dif, possibly because the quality is so good
 
Well yea, bit its split between 360, XO ( which in the sales figures DIDNT include the bundled downloads or any digital copes sold) and Pc.
 
3 AAA games and not one of them scored above 90% on Metacritc.

What defines a AAA game these days? Sales figures? None of them would qualify there either.

It's not a definition set in stone - but it usually refers to a game published by a major publisher, enjoying a large budget (can be millions of dollars) and a large team working on it over a few years. AAA titles typically also have a lot of publicity.

The term does not say anything about the game quality or sales figure

anyway who decides what scores above 90%??? as far as im concerned its each individual. personally forza is THE best car game ive played yet. however one of my fav games was need for speed pro street which many think is a terrible game. my partner will tell you the new kinect sports rivals is an amazing game yet that gets relatively poor reviews.

in this diital age reviews and other opinions mean jack to me, a quick seach on youtube etc brings up many gameplay clips to go by
 
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I've always likened AAA games to Blockbuster movies. They are 'meant' to be the big hitters. Sometimes they are, sometimes they end up rubbish.

It's mostly about budget, expectation and marketing - so really for gamers it has no real meaning at all IMO.

I just judge everything on it's own merits.


I get a bit sick of reading about the differences to be honest. My TV and set up is enough to notice it, but flippin hell the Xbox One games still look really nice. They just look, really, really nice on PS4. I'd understand if one looked terrible.

I hope MS announce loads of great games at E3 as I'll probably make my choice for 2nd console then so I'm hoping they have more interesting exclusives this generation. Past experience suggests they don't really appeal to my tastes but that could change.
 
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Thought I'd check in and see how the thread is going........

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Back on topic.....

Phil spencer needs to go, and then Microsoft need to get in someone who knows what they're doing, preferably some one who is not an American chest puffing douche.

Next they need to eat some humble pie and stop treating their customers like mugs by charging them for everything from headset adapters to play and charge kits.

Thirdly offer your customers more than your competitor instead of just matching them 6 months later.

The above will help greatly, I really should send my CV to MS :)
 
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