Kitchen appliances (specifically fridge/freezer)

Shaz]sigh[ · 17 Sep 2013 at 14:14

I'm about to refit my kitchen and am in need of a new oven, hob, extractor, dishwasher and fridge.

After spending a few nights, I've swung towards the BSH side of things and although Bosch and Neff are cost comparable, have swung towards Neff as I understood their brochure better!

At the mo, I have the following in my head:

Neff B15P52N3GB Pyrolytic Oven
Neff T45D40X2 Induction Hob
Neff D39M55N1GB Chimney Hood
Neff S51T69X3GB Dishwasher

Are there any major issues with Neff as a brand that I should know about before I place an order?

The only decision I've yet to make is the fridge freezer. I keep swinging between built in or not and have a budget of around £700 standalone or £500 builtin. I'd need a 70/30 split.

I was originally looking at the Samsung RL58GPEIH for standalone.

As for integrated, I'm at a loss. I don't want to spend the money required to get Liebherr or even any of the BSH offerings. Someone told me Hotpoint were good fridge freezers but then I also seem to remember their brand being awful..

Thoughts?

Shaz]sigh[ · 17 Sep 2013 at 14:16

Worth mentioning that I don't want an American FF as I have a freezer in the garage - a tall (1900~) standard width one for standalone is what I'd be going for if not integrated.

Shaz]sigh[ · 17 Sep 2013 at 15:30

I'm buying the kitchen from DIY-Kitchens and the appliances myself.

If I go integrated, it'll be housed in a tall unit (2150mm+150mm legs) and essentially ships with a support that you cut to lift the appliance so the bottom door is in line with the cab doors.

Any gaps at the bottom top can then be hidden with a filling panel.

Shaz]sigh[ · 17 Sep 2013 at 15:31

~Divine~Wind~ said:
Currently looking about also:

Fridges Im mainly looking at samsung at the moment, lookingh at 90cmx2m max
Oven Im looking at a Smeg SUK91MBL7 (1yr warranty is annoying of a 1k oven )

Dishwasher Im tempted by the Ikea offerings, nowt comes close for the price to the 5 year warranty. Apparantly most of the Ikea appliances are made by whirlpool or Bosch.

For the fridges I went looking in local stores and the samsungs and panasonics looked to be the better quality looking ones.

I wanted a minimum of 2 years warranty throughout so had to discount a number of manufacturers.

I would go with a Bosch or Neff builtin FF but the cabinet adds another £200-300 on to the order so really trying to keep the costs in check.

Shaz]sigh[ · 17 Sep 2013 at 23:08

How are Gorenje when it comes to reliability (ignoring the warranty)? I've read a few bad things about them which put me off... :confused:

Shaz]sigh[ · 18 Sep 2013 at 13:51

bitslice said:
Neff do a very well thought out microwave.

Also a nice platewarmer, breadwarmer drawer if you have spare cash

I was planning to get the Oven/Microwave combi (C57M70 from memory) which does hot air/grilling etc.

I don't have the room for a platewarmer though!

Shaz]sigh[ · 18 Sep 2013 at 13:52

Just had a quick look at door sizes over my lunch break and it appears Beko do an integrated version that would fit in the cabinet without customisation. I'm guessing this is a bad idea... ?

I also found a good offer on a Siemens integrated FF but it would need raising by 80-100mm to line the doors up.

Shaz]sigh[ · 18 Sep 2013 at 13:53

BombayMix said:
My old kitchen had Neff oven and hob. The element in the oven blew a bit too often given the usage. Other then that they were okay but given the premium the Neff brand has not sure it was really worth the extra money. New kitchen going to AEG oven and hob and Zenssui fridge/freezer and washer dryer.

Are Zanussi supposed to be good for fridge freezers? I can't work out who owns who/which are the good brands anymore

Shaz]sigh[ · 18 Sep 2013 at 14:51

Thanks for that.

One bit that caught my eyes was:

1. The outside of pyrolytic ovens can get really hot when you clean them (80 degrees C + ambient). Make sure the surrounds are up to the heat. Make sure any of the Neff ovens are installed with the correct venting and spacing underneath, up the back and out the top. I've measured the outside door of our combi microwave/oven at up to 96 degrees at the end of the cleaning cycle.

How do you mean surrounds are up to the heat?

It'll be built in to tall unit near a corner with the units going along the other wall approx 70mm away at base height (ie, lower than the oven).

Shaz]sigh[ · 18 Sep 2013 at 23:06

Just ordered the oven, hob, microwave and dishwasher (although I went for the Bosch variant as it was £30 cheaper to start with, had a £50 cashback offer and also 6 months of free tablets!

) so now need to decide on the fridge...

I've just checked the manuals and can't see anything about clearances so slightly concerned but I've only gone for the C57M70 which is essentially a Microwave with hot air and grill so not sure if it's as potent as yours...

I'm good for power, I have a run to an existing built under oven and induction hob which will solely be used for an induction hob and I have my electrician coming next week to set me up a new feed for the oven and microwave.

Shaz]sigh[ · 19 Sep 2013 at 19:19

Steampunk said:
If it's any help, the oven cleans at (IIRC) 475 degrees centigrade, so we always open the windows, kitchen door, and do it on a cool day. It can throw out some incredible heat, but we only need to clean it 3-4 times a year.

There was me thinking a pyrolytic oven would be quite unobtrusive! Sounds like an ordeal but I don't *do* oven cleaning.

Shaz]sigh[ · 24 Sep 2013 at 15:05

Yep, noted.

Mostly went for them as I understood the catalogue better (although did go for the Bosch dishwasher as it had cashback and free tablets). There wasn't much in the price over the two (Siemens was a step up though!).