Knocking down a mortgaged house

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A thread for opinions of the forum only really, but a subject of which i have great interest in so thought i would see if anybody here had an opinion.

Now, the usual method of buying a house, with the aim to knock it down and replace it, would be to either;

- Apply for permissionbefore purchase and therefore fund the purchase with a development loan or self build mortgage.

- Assuming existing structure is habitable, fund with a regular mortgage, then apply for permission and then re-mortgage with a self build/dev loan once approved.

Both of these routes are fairly expensive and potentially faffy in comparison with a standard mortgage product, the first route presenting more financial risk than the 2nd.

I wonder what the mortgage company would say if you simply funded with a regular product, then....knocked it down anyway? (assuming you have funds for the replacement build). You then go on to re-mortgage to another regular product once the house is replaced.

The way i see it, neither company needs to even know about the rebuild? How much trouble are you potentially opening themselves up to by doing this i wonder? What would they do if they did find out mid build? What would they say if something arose and the house didnt match the property which was there when they valued whatsoever.

Crazy plan or good plan?
 
Iv done this only without any mortgages involved, just got on and did it.

The house is happily rented out to this day 5 years on.
 
Wouldn't have thought it was legal, as the value of the property is quite a bit lower if you've knocked it down. Run out funds mid project and the bank lose out.
 
Iv done this only without any mortgages involved, just got on and did it.

The house is happily rented out to this day 5 years on.


I dont see the issue at all when finance is not involved mate? I'm not talking about lack of planning, just lack of co-operation from the mortgage company. Ie, you are knocking their asset down! :)
 
Our mortgage came with a house insurance clause. They'd only offer the money if the house was insured. And we had to fix a crack in one of the walls
 
Iv done this only without any mortgages involved, just got on and did it.

The house is happily rented out to this day 5 years on.

Then surely your post is irrelevant to the question?

Wouldn't have thought it would be legal tbh, although if it was I think it would open a big can of worms regarding re-financing if it was needed or re-possesion if things went badly for you financially.
 
I dont see the issue at all when finance is not involved mate? I'm not talking about lack of planning, just lack of co-operation from the mortgage company. Ie, you are knocking their asset down! :)

Thats what im saying, go steady, if its a winner, borrow the money from your dad or somewhere else, i wouldnt risk it on borrowed money.
 
Then surely your post is irrelevant to the question?

Wouldn't have thought it would be legal tbh, although if it was I think it would open a big can of worms regarding re-financing if it was needed or re-possesion if things went badly for you financially.

Yea my bad, i'l ask you before i post next time.
 
Thats what im saying, go steady, if its a winner, borrow the money from your dad or somewhere else, i wouldnt risk it on borrowed money.

Its not a real situation anyway mate, it is something i would like to do yes, but sadly not a realisation at the moment.

Luckily i am in a position to be a cash buyer on most things i would buy these days anyway, so i am unlikely to ever be in the position. But the thought of what they would do is something i am interested in the opinions of all the same. Its also good in general to keep financials away from the family, saves the arguments :p
 
if you plan to know it down and rebuild,who is going to know? i'm sure there are no mortgage police looking for mortgaged people who have knocked their house down.


Please do not act on my post i know nothing about this
 
I don't quite get what the idea is. Buy a house as normal and take out a mortgage, knock it down and then build another using your own funds?
 
At a guess, Jez, they'd require equity up to the value of only the land.

They would never agree to that on a normal product, that is how the self build mortgage route works. Separate valuations for plot & building works.
 
if you plan to know it down and rebuild,who is going to know? i'm sure there are no mortgage police looking for mortgaged people who have knocked their house down.


Please do not act on my post i know nothing about this

Exactly my thinking! :)

I don't quite get what the idea is. Buy a house as normal and take out a mortgage, knock it down and then build another using your own funds?

Indeed.
 
They would never agree to that on a normal product, that is how the self build mortgage route works. Separate valuations for plot & building works.

Well you asked about knocking down a house on a regular product...my answer is that I'd guess they would demand more equity, such that their liability is only that of the value of the land, until suchtime as the house is completed and signed off.
 
Well you asked about knocking down a house on a regular product...my answer is that I'd guess they would demand more equity, such that their liability is only that of the value of the land, until suchtime as the house is completed and signed off.

Oh i see, you mean if they found out somehow. I almost want to phone a regular lender and put the situation to them our of curiosity, but i cant imagine how i would speak to anybody who would not simply be a call centre worker reading off a script :(
 
Agree with Robbie here,

The lender would want some insurances should things go bad. Having Equity elsewhere to cover any problems that arise (as mentioned above) may satisfy the lender.

The definitive way to get an answer is seek profesional advice.
 
Buy a house as normal and take out a mortgage, knock it down and then build another using your own funds?

surely that would be classed as fraud tho, because you've secured a mortgage on a property which you've got every intention of demolitiong without the banks prior knowledge & approval?.
 
if you plan to know it down and rebuild,who is going to know? i'm sure there are no mortgage police looking for mortgaged people who have knocked their house down.


Please do not act on my post i know nothing about this

Lol, silly boy.

When you buy a house, the office copies shows not only the address, there is also plans of the building stored in the land registry. And if you ever try to sell it before the mortgage is up, good luck getting it pass your mortgagee. If you do any thing that require planning permission, or building regulation approval, there is a record of all that.

There is no way to "hide" it.
 
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