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I'm currently in the market for a new laptop and at the moment I'm leaning towards a Dell, largely because they seem cheaper than a lot of the other machines available and they're quite popular at the moment. I've not really looked at any Sonys, Toshibas or Samsungs as I tend to associate these brands with TVs and phones.

What springs to mind when you think of a Sony/Samsung/Toshiba/Acer/Asus/Dell/Mac/HP laptop? Is there a brand that's widely respected/trusted?
 
Build quality-wise, Sony and Apple probably come out top IMO, then followed by Toshiba and the rest.

Dells are good machines though, the only major irritation about them is their call centre is poorly staffed and it's like pulling teeth talking to them.
 
Unless it's improved in the last couple of years, Sony support can make Dell's seem excellent.....
 
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Not sure what the general opinion of HP is but my DV5 (bought Nov 08) series Pavilion seems great to me, looks swish with great build quality, however they didn't half mess up the Windows installation with pre-installed crap. (I put my own Vista install on it using the serial on the laptop base)

Definitely look into HP anyway, I bought mine in the US and the specs were excellent for the price. (although partly due to how much cheaper things are there)
 
Unlike retail PCs where the cases are the same, and more expensive ones just have better components inside. laptops do actually vary quite markedly in build quality.

A Dell Latitude is significantly better made than a Dell Inspiron. Toshiba Tecra and especially Portege are better than Satellite Pro and they are better than just Satellite.

The differences are often subtle, but important. Things like magnesium vs. aluminium or steel chassis, the thickness of the plastics, the protection offered to the HDD, the amount of cooling the CPU gets are all subtly different.

I always buy Dell Latitude (corporate range) laptops because you will always be able to get bits for them - PSUs, docking stations, media slices - these are all guaranteed to fit the last and next Latitude's as well as the current ones so you have better build quality and longevity of the system as a whole. Of course, you do pay for that.

The Sony laptops I have seen are not very good. Lenovo seem pretty decent and Acer are very reasonably priced (enough said;)).
 
Not sure what the general opinion of HP is but my DV5 (bought Nov 08) series Pavilion seems great to me, looks swish with great build quality, however they didn't half mess up the Windows installation with pre-installed crap. (I put my own Vista install on it using the serial on the laptop base)

Definitely look into HP anyway, I bought mine in the US and the specs were excellent for the price. (although partly due to how much cheaper things are there)

My old laptop was a Pavilion. My only complaint with it was that it tended to overheat quite easily. I've heard that HPs still suffer from this. Has that been your experience with them?

Which model DV5 are you using? I've come across a HP DV5-1010 for £520 (refurb) that looks interesting:

Intel Core 2 Duo (P7350) 2 GHz 1066 MHz 3 MB, RAM 4096 MB, 250 GB SATA, Windows Vista Home Premium, GeForce 9600M GT 512 MB, Blu Ray + remote control.

Does that sound like a good deal to you? It's described as having slight cosmetic imperfections (Grade 2 refurb), which doesn't really bother me so long as the machine's performance isn't effected.



Also seen a DV7 refurb for £650 (DV71020EA):

INTEL CORE 2 DUO (P8400) 2.26 GHz, 4GB RAM, 320GB SATA, GeForce 9600M GT 512MB, Blu Ray

Do you think that's worth the extra £130? The larger screen and faster processor are certainly appealing.
 
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I've had several Dell Inspiron laptops and they've all seemed pretty solid and even the old ones (e.g. an Inspiron 3800) are going strong. Latitudes though just won't die (and I wish my work D610 would as it's woefully under powered for what I do but I can't get a new one at the moment as it still works)

Acer ... had two and both have overheating issues which cause noise or stability issues, (not caused by a build up of dust as they've been cleaned).
 
My old laptop was a Pavilion. My only complaint with it was that it tended to overheat quite easily. I've heard that HPs still suffer from this. Has that been your experience with them?

Which model DV5 are you using? I've come across a HP DV5-1010 for £520 (refurb) that looks interesting:

Intel Core 2 Duo (P7350) 2 GHz 1066 MHz 3 MB, RAM 4096 MB, 250 GB SATA, Windows Vista Home Premium, GeForce 9600M GT 512 MB, Blu Ray + remote control.

Does that sound like a good deal to you? It's described as having slight cosmetic imperfections (Grade 2 refurb), which doesn't really bother me so long as the machine's performance isn't effected.



Also seen a DV7 refurb for £650 (DV71020EA):

INTEL CORE 2 DUO (P8400) 2.26 GHz, 4GB RAM, 320GB SATA, GeForce 9600M GT 512MB, Blu Ray

Do you think that's worth the extra £130? The larger screen and faster processor are certainly appealing.

I have this model, although annoyingly the price has been cut by about $115 since I bought it. :o :p

It gets kinda hot, but in power saving mode the processor only gets to around 45-55c at most, it does reach the higher 60s when the processor is getting pushed though.

That refurb sounds like a good deal to me, I think the extra £130 model is good but a larger screen isn't necessarily a good thing, I mean I find the 15" a little big for moving around personally. As for the extra processor speed then I doubt you will really notice that, the extra HDD space is nice but you can easily swap in your own drive at a later date if needed.
 
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The only laptops or desktops that have lasted have been Dell, Dell make sure the machines are properly cooled in a quiet way.

Apple make really nice machines but their quality control is suspect at best, that goes for the factory and the repair department.

My Acer Aspire one is a piece of junk, it is very noisy with the fan.

But with all brands its personal experience, one good or bad experience can change your views.
 
Here's my take on some manufacturers/brands of notebooks:

Dell Inspiron: Cheaply built, has a fairly cheap feel to it. Saying this, it will survive a few drops.
Dell Latitude: These usually have alloy-based chassis' (such as a magnesium alloy chassis), and the build quality is noticably better than that of the Inspiron's. Saying this, the paint can fade quickly (< 6 Months of heavy use).
Sony Vaio: If you can afford the price tag, the build quality is very nice. They usually come with a brushed aluminium case, which is appealing to the eye. However, some of the plastic-cased notebooks can become worn quickly (paint fades, primer coat shows through).
Toshiba: I used to have an old Toshiba Satellite Pro, which was great for work, and the build quality was excellent. However, some of the new 'glossy' Qosmio's can look a feel a little cheap.
IBM Thinkpad: These things feel sturdy, very sturdy; whether it be day one or day 9001, these notebooks hold together well, and are usually made specifically to stand knocks, bumps, and falls.
Clevo: I currently have a Clevo M860TU. This thing is obviously built to last. Like the Vaio, it has a brushed aluminium case, and from the design is very sturdy. One gripe is that the lid casing is a bit naff, as seen here

Hope that gives you brief overview of some of the major manufacturers.
 
My only laptop was a Philips, was only a cheap thing - But i had it 3 years with plenty of drops,until i finally dropped it a bit too far (Off the roof :p)
 
My only personal computer day to day is a laptop and has been for about four years now. Throughout that time I'm always had a Macbook Pro and I've never had quality issues with any of them, the new ones look even studier and I won't even bother looking elsewhere when I replace this one.

But if you're looking for a PC...

My work Dell Latitude doesn't feel terribly well put together and is a bit plasticky (new ones much better in that regard at least) but it's survived some serious abuse, get chucked in my bag and thrown around every day and keeps on going.

Thinkpads are still bulletproof if you want good quality.

HP business laptops tend to be plasticky at the low end and even at the high end don't feel incredibly sturdy but I thought that about my Dell so you'd need to speak to a long term user.

Toshiba - wouldn't touch anymore, shame as they used to be so good but these days they're a bit nowhere. R600 is a beautiful laptop but feels like it's going to snap if you touch it.

Sony - well my SZ was OK without being great and I know a lot of people who've had problems with sony laptops so I probably wouldn't go there again. That said the TT looks nice, shame it's so bloody slow...

If you want a non apple machine, I'd say Dell or Lenovo are good bets in the quality stakes - bearing in mind this is all regarding business laptops. I've always bought business focused machines, even for personal use as they are generally better put together and aren't overwhelmed with gimmicks.
 
I didn't even think of Samsung for doing laptops but I now have one as my primary (and currently) only machine. Samsung Q210 is amazing though you could get the bigger versions from the same range.
 
Yes but their laptop division is based in Japan, therefore it's as good as made there.

http://www.ibm.com/jp/pc/lenovo/en/index.shtml
I don't see how you interpret that page that way. To me it just looks like Lenovo Japan is a standard subsidiary of the main Company. I can't see anything there that says Lenovo Japan does any design work. I also think they would have mentioned it at the sales briefings I attended when I was working for a major Thinkpad reseller at the time Lenovo took over from IBM.
 
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