Laptop Confusion

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Good Morning,

I'm in the market of buying a new laptop for gaming on, though I'm struggling to work out what I should be looking for. I have a budget of £1500 but I'm struggling with the following:

What GPU should I get

What CPU should I get

What combinations of the two are best or will I notice much difference?

GPU's I'm looking at are:
2070 max-q
2060
1070
1660ti

It doesn't really seem to me that there is much difference between these GPU's apart from how recently they were released

CPU's I'm looking at are:
i7 8750H
i7 9750H

When it comes to looking at specs of laptops. What would be the most important things to look for and get? I have found this one but can't find much information on it:

** No Competitors please **
 
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You shouldn't post external links to competitors in all honesty. If I were you I'd find a model / chassis that is rated as very good and try see if your specs fall within it because at the end of the day if you've got the specs without the sufficient cooling or quality of screen it's not gonna be a great experience. Notebookcheck is a good place to start, or even YouTube.
 
Apologies on that, I have bought a few things from OC before and utilize their forums as I seem to get the best feedback. So I feel like i can justify it slightly!

I can have a look at those today and see, regarding the build is there really much difference between the CPU/GPU combinations IRL or again is this a 'cooling' situation as a hot CPU won't perform as good as a cooler one?
 
Apologies on that, I have bought a few things from OC before and utilize their forums as I seem to get the best feedback. So I feel like i can justify it slightly!

I can have a look at those today and see, regarding the build is there really much difference between the CPU/GPU combinations IRL or again is this a 'cooling' situation as a hot CPU won't perform as good as a cooler one?

Cooling matters imo. I have a HP Omen 15 right now and it throttles the CPU down to 3ghz, sometimes even to 2.8ghz. (i7-8750h/9750h require great cooling performance) - and despite throttling it remains too hot to have on your lap comfortably, particularly in the summer.
 
Okay thanks for heads up. I've followed advice and think I've found something I'd like. Lenovo y740 with i7 9750 and 2070 max q for £1500. Would this be seen as a good deal?
 
I recently got myself an Acer Predator Triton 500 with an 8300h and 2060.

I honestly feel the 6 core 9750 and 8750 run too hot for the majority of these laptops, especially if you're going to load them. You'll either hit thermal or power limits. I'm glad to say that the cooling on the Triton is quite capable of cooling off the 8300h and 2060 (I even reflashed the 2060 from the 80 to 90 watt bios and added a little GPU overclock). I did apply a better thermal paste and undervolt the processor to help out though.

For my needs, the 8300 and 2060 do more than enough, especially at 1080p. If I didn't have my desktop I'd be looking at the 2070 though, and you can only get that with the 8750 / 9750 as far as I know!

It's only a 1080p panel at 144hz, but it's a great screen and I have my desktop if I want to change it up a bit!
 
I recently got myself an Acer Predator Triton 500 with an 8300h and 2060.

I honestly feel the 6 core 9750 and 8750 run too hot for the majority of these laptops, especially if you're going to load them. You'll either hit thermal or power limits. I'm glad to say that the cooling on the Triton is quite capable of cooling off the 8300h and 2060 (I even reflashed the 2060 from the 80 to 90 watt bios and added a little GPU overclock). I did apply a better thermal paste and undervolt the processor to help out though.

For my needs, the 8300 and 2060 do more than enough, especially at 1080p. If I didn't have my desktop I'd be looking at the 2070 though, and you can only get that with the 8750 / 9750 as far as I know!

It's only a 1080p panel at 144hz, but it's a great screen and I have my desktop if I want to change it up a bit!

What is your laptop like? I'm stuck between a triton 500 and the y540/740 but it seems that upgrading the RAM in the Triton is an absolute nightmare?? Specs wise they're nearly identical on both machines it would simply be more if an aesthetics thing and cooling/portability.

I'd be up for OC some of the components in both is it relatively easy to do?
 
I'd be up for OC some of the components in both is it relatively easy to do?

Generally (well, for 15" or smaller laptops), you don't overclock, you leave at stock but undervolt, as the majority of the smaller/slimmer laptops can't handle full stock temps anyway and throttle.
 
What is your laptop like? I'm stuck between a triton 500 and the y540/740 but it seems that upgrading the RAM in the Triton is an absolute nightmare?? Specs wise they're nearly identical on both machines it would simply be more if an aesthetics thing and cooling/portability.

I'd be up for OC some of the components in both is it relatively easy to do?

The mainboard on the Triton is upside down, so to upgrade any components, you need to totally remove the mainboard. Honestly, aslong as you're careful with the cables it's really not that hard, it's just not a case of removing the back of the case and dropping in the upgrades. As for build quality, I'm very happy with it, nothing like the last acer laptop I had years ago It feels like a quality product, it's rigid with very little flex... although it is a finger print magnet due to the paint finish. It's not quite up to the build quality of my 2015 macbook, but I'd take the slightly reduced build quality over all the other nonsense that goes along with having a macbook. I find it to be quite subtle compared to many gaming laptops (and I covered the logo on the top of the laptop with some vinyl). Keep in mind the RGB isn't per key if that matters to you, it has 3 zones (the wasd and up, down, left, right keys are tinted to make them stand out)

You can't OC the processor but you can undervolt it, I use throttlestop for this and guides on how to do it are easy to find online. This means it's less likely to overheat or hit any power limits... it can hit higher boost clocks for longer as a result. Overclocking the graphics card is a bit of a pain with the switchable graphics though, msi afterburner keeps waking up the GPU, not a problem plugged in, but using the battery it really, really eats into battery life. (Think 6-7 hours down to 3). I ended up altering some settings in the predatorsense settings folder and skipping on afterburner. In terms of reflashing the 80w bios to a 90w bios, that's a little bit more involved and it depends on what card you go for anyway. I'd see if you're happy with performance before you reflash. Reflashing is always a risk and going outside of the laptops thermal design limits isn't necessarily a good idea.


Here are a couple of links for what I did to overclock the GPU and upgrade memory etc.

GPU Overclock (Just the first part of the video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN6i_H-sj1k

Memory Upgrade (Removing mainboard).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-PmEaytJOA

(With this one, my laptop didn't have the large black covering over the motherboard to remove before taking screws out, not sure why!)

If you choose to redo the thermal paste, keep in mind there is also thermal paste on some VRMs, particularly around the GPU. This thermal paste was quite hard, once you remove the heatsink installation you can't really put it back without replacing all of that paste, at least in my opinion. Make sure you have enough!

And just to add, the predatorsense app seems to cause high dpc latency when undervolting (audio crackles etc) on battery in particular. Easy enough to fix, just change any settings you want in the program then close it. Only open it when you need to!

Generally (well, for 15" or smaller laptops), you don't overclock, you leave at stock but undervolt, as the majority of the smaller/slimmer laptops can't handle full stock temps anyway and throttle.

I honestly believe the cooling in the Triton 500 copes well with the 8300h and 2060. The fans don't ramp up to maximum and there would be enough thermal headroom for overclocking if I could over ride the power limits! Obviously the laptop would be significantly noisier as a result, the 180w power brick would be a limitation as well.

I think the 8750/9750 would suffer a lot more from thermal and power throttling though.

Seems like GPUs and CPUs are starting to hit the point where the smaller cooling solutions in laptops can cope with genuinely quite powerful parts (in terms of performance). If you don't start chucking silly numbers of cores in.
 
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i got the helios 300 with the 9750 and the 1660ti.. now as it is my first gaming laptop i think it is pretty decent... most games run around 80-85 c for the cpu with minimum thermal throttling.. the only time i got any was a few weeks back when it was hot! it is undervolted hence why it runs a little cooler.. most of the time the cpu runs from 3900-4000mhz.
some reviews i have seen they put liquid metal on the cpu and gpu and that drops it another 5-10 c
 
I honestly believe the cooling in the Triton 500 copes well with the 8300h and 2060. The fans don't ramp up to maximum and there would be enough thermal headroom for overclocking if I could over ride the power limits! Obviously the laptop would be significantly noisier as a result, the 180w power brick would be a limitation as well.

I think the 8750/9750 would suffer a lot more from thermal and power throttling though.

Seems like GPUs and CPUs are starting to hit the point where the smaller cooling solutions in laptops can cope with genuinely quite powerful parts (in terms of performance). If you don't start chucking silly numbers of cores in.

Yeah, the higher priced laptops (usually) have better cooling solutions, but most sub-£1500 ones barely cope, haha.

Also, the amount you would be able to squeeze out wouldn't result in any appreciable performance increase, so you are upping the temps for no reason and reducing the lifespan or your laptop (and possibly battery if the charger can't keep up).
 
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