Last night

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Last night we had a little grief and it resulted in me being dragged out of a club around the neck by a door man. Before I go on I need to explain:

My friend has worked with me for a few years and found himself in love with a girl we also work with. They were together a fair few months and then decided to go to Australia for 6 weeks together. My friend (we shall call him "Joe" for ease) borrowed money from her (lets call her "Jess") to help fund this trip. As soon as they returned to the UK she split up with him. She told him it wasn't working and she didn't want to be with him. He was devastated, I knew how much he liked her however I also knew what kind of person she was. She's been with men before and always dumped them, she's never been finished herself. I do think she has issues here, she's bragged about being with a wealthy man and getting rid of him because his money ran out, etc etc. Basically she's a bit of a bitch but of course, when my firend decided to get with her all I could be was happy for him, to express any other feeling about them would not be fair to him (even if I didn't like her).

Joe no longer works with us, he is in a much better job now and he has convinced me he is truly over Jess, although it did take some time. Last night was "Rachel's" leaving party. Rachel has worked with us for years and decided to throw a leaving bar crawl around a local town. Joe came with us all, he knows us all and is good friends still, except of course Jess, but he decided to ignore that and not let her get in the way of his friends. It should also be noted that since their split she has done nothing but bad mouth Joe behind his back saying how much of a loser he is. She's even joked about the fact that a few times he rang her and was crying to her that he wanted her back. That was a few months ago now and Joe is over her, he realises that she's not worth that much heart ache if she is going to be the way she is.

Lastnight we all was having a good night. We drank a lot of alcohol and we were all in high spirits and giving Rachel the seeing off she deserved. Although we had a lot to drink we are not the kind of people to cause trouble, we just enjoy a fun night out like any normal person. The last call of the night was to visit one of the local clubs. Its cheap beer and its where Rachel wants to go. It also just so happens to be the place of work for Jess after she has finished her days work at our company. She normally works on the door charging entry and on the bar after that. It should also be noted that she works there unlawfully. She has admitted herself that she works there tax free and that our employer doesn't know she works there and it's the reason why she is often late to work and in a grotty/tired mood when she arrives.

Last night Jess phoned Rachel before we all went out, made her apologies and explained to her that she wasn't feeling well and wasn't coming out. I believe she did that because she knew of the grief we were about to recieve. As soon as we all paid to enter that club my friend Joe was pulled aside by several of the doormen. He was escorted onto the staff room and it was explained to me by the assistant manager "Kerry" (also Jess's flatmate) that he was ok they were just having a word with him. After 15minutes of being there he walked out of there looking rather distressed. Basically the doormen gave him the ultimatum that he pays Jess the money he owes her ASAP or he faces consequences. That was it, I wasn't best pleased, nor were several of our colleagues. We asked him if he was ok, he explained the whole ordeal and I told us all to drink up as we were going to leave straight away. As we did drink up Kerry walked by with a sly smile on her face. I turned to her and told her that this was not on and that Joe and Jess's realtionship/financial issues had nothing to with anyone else and asked her why that just happened. She just shrugged and said its nothing to worry about.

The doormen were watching us all this time and one approached me asking if I had a problem. I replied in a completely none aggressive or threatening manner that I thought that what just happened was unjust and untoward to my friend. At that instant the doorman grabbed me in the usual manner around the neck and literally dragged me out of that club. Two other people including Joe was escorted out too. I didn't put up any fight, they were all bigger than me and of course that would have made matters worse. As soon as I reached the door I was shoved out followed with a barrage of abuse from several doormen. The whole ordeal left me very disappointed because I usually have respect for security staff, last night proved to me that they think they're a cut above other people and that they can use their domineering size and rule over their premises to bully people in situations that have absolutely nothing to do with them. All over a pretty girl that they work with and don't even know that well.

When we all got home we discussed what happened and what to do next. As we see it we all went out to enjoy Rachel leaving our place of work. We intended no trouble for anyone, especially Jess even if she had decided to join us. I am annoyed at her and the staff at that club.

My question is this.. what would you now do? I am very angry at Jess and the staff. Would you:

. Phone the police about the situation. Although its our (drunken) word against theirs, they have used blackmail as a form to threaten Joe.
. Tell our current employer about Jess working for another company unlawfully and that this is the reason for her performance in her job. I know this would most probably lead to her dismissal.
. Tell the correct governing body ( I think its taxes and excise or something) about Jess working illegally as a pay back kind of gesture
. All of the above
. None of the above

Do understand that this has been an ongoing affair of abuse from Jess towards Joe and that for sometime now I have just bit my tongue and not got invloved. I have always written it off as usual relationship break down problems but now I feel it has gone beyond that by her initiating other people to sort out her problems. Its just not on nor is it fair...

Apologies for the rant

CP
 
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cleanbluesky said:

Oh yes I've definitely been embarrased but I can handle that I dont care at all what people in there looking at me thought, after all, I know what happened and why I was handled that way so I am fine in my own mind. The fact is I dont care about me here it's my friend I care about and yes he owes her money and the really stupid part of it is that he has actually signed a written agreement written up by herself that he owes her money and will pay her back.

He in no way wants to cause her grief by not paying her back, he does want to pay her back, he just can't return it all at once because I think it is nearer £1000. He has told her he will repay in weekly instalments and she is not happy with that! He borrowed this money whilst they were together and whilst it is easy for any of us to say "ah well you shouldn't get yourself in that situation" he was after all in a realtionship with her and obviously felt comfortable about doing that. The money was borrowed to pay for him to go to Australia with her so I don't see why he should have had any worries about it in the first place seeing as she suggested it in the first place.

Gah, its hard to not hate and show it. I'm at work with her later today and I can make her life living hell due to my position there but that would be wrong. Its going to be hard to hold back though after what she has done.

I'm tempted stir up some anonomous drug abuse reports about the club too. If any doormen are reading this, please think before you act like you're the mafia or something! I have all due respect for their purpose in their job but when they play the law I lose that respect for the certain few.
 
I have just spoken to Joe and what I didnt know is that the doormen have threatened him that he has until next weekend to pay her or he is going to be beaten up!

He has already started to pay her some of it back, I really dont see the point in all what happened. I have told Joe to phone the police at once to get on file the fact he has been threatened so if anything does happen he has the uppe rhand. I think, like you say, he or myslef should also contact the club owner.

I dont know how she has the cheek.. She lived at his parents for 6 weeks rent free, SHE owes HIS DAD £200. She even drives without insurance! It's all so stupidly petty and all because they once had a relationship. Why can't people just split up and accept they weren't suitable for one another. If they had never got together and he owed her money I really don't think things would have panned out like they have. I'm embarrassed for them! :(
 
Dtab said:
Your mate got what he deserved tbh,as you say it was over months ago,he's over her and got a better job - still not got round to paying her back tho has he?
Being patient waiting for him to pay up obviously wasn't working so he should count himself lucky all he got was a frightening verbal.Police can do nothing as its your word against theirs,they will just say you were causing trouble in the club.

Dropping a.n.other work colleage in the poo just cos your mate is in the wrong is petty beyond belief too

Please explain why? He has started to pay her back, the point is it is nothing to do with the doormen and they cant go around throwing their weight liek that. Informing the police shall help cover his back should anything untoward happen to him.

Im off to work now anyway. Wish me luck!

PS yes JANE was a typo! And no its not her real name :)
 
UPDATE

Ok the situation has become very serious and totally out of proportion now!

Yesterday I got to work and said nothing to Jess. I thought this was probably the best way to approach the situation in the mean time. She did come to me after an hour or so and ask me if I was hurt the night before, I really don't believe she was concerned for my welfare but the fact that any injury to me could result in legal action (presumptuous yes but I know Jess, she really is an nasty piece of work). Anyhow, I am hurt, I have bruises down my right arm and he has done something to my neck. I could lay claim here, but I would be concerned of the back lash it would have on myself and Joe and the main focus here is getting Joe back in the clear.

After 4 hours at work yesterday Joe arrived at our back entrance in his car. He jumped out shouting to me where Jess was. He looked extremely upset/distressed. He was waving his arm's about and shouting. I told him to calm and told him to explain what was wrong. He demanded to see Jess, I told him she was at the bar (we work at a restaurant). I also warned him not to go there though as it just so happened that one of the doormen were there with Rachel!!! They had come to see Jess about booking her a holiday next week (or so I was told). At that Joe became frantic. He jumped in his car and sped off at high speed.

It turned out that two of the doormen have been tailing Joe in his car all day!!! They have followed him around the estate in which he lives, he didn't dare stop and had eventually lost them! He was very scared.

He has spoken to the police and the owner of the club. To my dismay the owner said to Joe that it is ridiculous that he may accuse his staff of threatening him! His words were "Ok now you have exaggerated this and reported to the police I am going to buy that debt from Jess and you are going to owe me now then we'll see!" Basically, theyre going to loan shark him... this is ridiculous. I don't know what to do. I've told Joe to keep a full record of everything that has been said and done with times and dates and to contact the police again. They just can't do things like that. His club need's petrol bombing if you ask me.

What Im worried about now is that the club staff are getting Jess out of the country next week, what does this mean? Surely they have somehting planned. It's like Eastenders or something! ...who do these people think they are :confused:

The problem is its Joe's word against theirs. We need evidence this is happening. He needs to record his calls and any contact with them. I do feel quite helpless though.
 
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